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post #11 of 18
Can i ask why you flipped the mobo? I'm interested...
post #12 of 18
now imagine if you will. you take this picture

turn it 90 degrees to the right. add some feet....
post #13 of 18
Feedbacks:-

1) This is basically R(reversed) ATX design similar to Lian Li V1000. See pic 1 below.

2) For your design, I would suggest making provision to allow for two 5.25'' bays. One for an optical drive and one for fan controller. 5.25'' fan controllers are more common while 3.25'' ones are less common and with less features.

3) This design is more suited for graphics cards cooled by the traditional design (ie front centrifugal intake fan and rear exhaut).
For non traditional cooling designs, fresh air path(s) and hot air escape path(s) will be all mixed up, causing a thermal management nightmare.

Pic 2 – traditional cooling design: well defined intake paths and escape paths. This brings excellent cooling.

Pic 3 – non traditional cooling design : severe crosspathing of cool and hot air. Hot air recirculation is unavoidable. This severely handicaps the cooling efficiency. This pic shows a GTX295 having hot air recirculation in the front only. If non traditional cooling design like Twin Frozr II is used, more severe thermal headache is expected.

4) andrew's suggestion of providing rear fans as pull fans for the graphics card is excellent. This concept has been put to use in Thermalright Box One prototype chassis. Unfortunately, it has not made it to production. See pic 4 below.
This rear external 'pull fan' system will lower temp of graphics card by about 4C (http://www.overclock.net/air-cooling...e-part-ii.html)



post #14 of 18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beamstas View Post
Can i ask why you flipped the mobo? I'm interested...
The reverse atx design has always made sense to me for a few reasons.
1. the cpu doesnt get all the heat that naturally rises from hot graphic cards.
2. you could actually see the gpu stickers/waterblocks instead of them being hidden on the bottom of the cards.
3. the 8-pin cpu power is much closer to the psu
4. the front panel connectors are much closer to the buttons/jacks

Quote:
Originally Posted by psyclum View Post
now imagine if you will. you take this picture

turn it 90 degrees to the right. add some feet....
... and some hdd's on the bottom, completely change the top, and thats pretty much it well at least thats the approximate depth I want, from the bottom of the fans, to the top of the frame.

Quote:
Originally Posted by windfire View Post
Feedbacks:-

1) This is basically R(reversed) ATX design similar to Lian Li V1000. See pic 1 below.

2) For your design, I would suggest making provision to allow for two 5.25'' bays. One for an optical drive and one for fan controller. 5.25'' fan controllers are more common while 3.25'' ones are less common and with less features.
Yes! The lian li is very similar to what I was picturing, minus all the extra space in the front they have to accomadate the 5.25 bays. If you cut that section off and put one 5.25 bay above the motherboard, along with room for a couple ssds near the back, the thats pretty much exactly what I was envisioning. It would make for a slightly taller and much shallower case, more in lines of the ABS 595, but with inverted motherboard, psu on the bottom, and smaller area up top. Thats what I'm thinking.

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Originally Posted by windfire View Post
Pic 2 – traditional cooling design: well defined intake paths and escape paths. This brings excellent cooling.

Pic 3 – non traditional cooling design : severe crosspathing of cool and hot air. Hot air recirculation is unavoidable. This severely handicaps the cooling efficiency. This pic shows a GTX295 having hot air recirculation in the front only. If non traditional cooling design like Twin Frozr II is used, more severe thermal headache is expected.
For traditional gpu's I think I would have the front fans set to intake, and the door fans and the rear as exhaust, as shown in the OP.

for Twin Froxr designs, the user could flip the fans, having the door fans intake directly on the cards, flip the rear fan to intake (and flip the fans on the cpu cooler also) and have everything exhausted out the front. I actually like this way alot, as everything is getting fresh air, with the only exception being the warm/hot air from the psu would be getting cycled through the cpu intake.

As for having an extra bay for a fan controller, I was thinking of just having one of those little hidden switchs for the front 3 fans, just a little switch with low/med/high, stationed in about the same area as the power and reset buttons, accessable by removing the rear side panel. Maybe another little switch for the side door fans would be in order too. Still I think two little 3-way switches included would be good.

Thanks guys for the comments. I like where this is going
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post #15 of 18
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more messing around with paint this morning.. I frankensteined this together- the angle and perspective are off a bit, but you get the picture. Optical drive up top/left, may only be able to fit 2x hdd's (and maybe a ssd) down by psu.. I need to draw this up better..



window..


Edited by bob808 - 10/6/11 at 9:38am
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80g Intel ssd, 2x300g raptors (0), 2x1 TB RE3 (0 Pioneer Blu-Ray burner, 22x dvd burner custom loop Windows 7 64bit 
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80g Intel ssd, 2x300g raptors (0), 2x1 TB RE3 (0 Pioneer Blu-Ray burner, 22x dvd burner custom loop Windows 7 64bit 
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post #16 of 18
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Here's a little better rendition muhahaha

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80g Intel ssd, 2x300g raptors (0), 2x1 TB RE3 (0 Pioneer Blu-Ray burner, 22x dvd burner custom loop Windows 7 64bit 
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post #17 of 18
the top side 3.5's aren't getting any air.

if that is the format you are going with, you are looking as a monster sized case. I would recommend you look into the RV03's for HDD mounting and you would use 200mm fans instead of the 180mm fans that silverstone uses so there would be good airflow on the back side of the mobo tray for HDD cooling.

personally i'd remove the top section entirely since i havent had an internally mounted optical drive for maybe 15 years now. if you ACTUALLY need an optical drive, use a USB version and put it away after you've installed your game. hell with the amount of $ you'd be charging for this monster sized case, you might as well include a external DVD drive instead of wasting space on a optical drive, i'd say leave that whole top section empty for those crazy liquid people. maybe a 5.25 cut out so people can mount their lamptron FC6.

with the dividers in there like that, it's starting to look ALOT like a TJ11/800D
post #18 of 18
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Originally Posted by psyclum View Post
now imagine if you will. you take this picture

turn it 90 degrees to the right. add some feet....
just flip it 90 degrees to the LEFT and skip the 5.25" bay and you're good to go
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