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Hi guys I have become kinda the unofficial I.T. guy at work. We are not that large of a company but we do use our server a lot and it's slow and old. Note the server is strictly a file server but it does get bogged down easily.

This is my first time ever building a server but my boss has asked for me to make it future proof. So if I decide it is better to run a domain rather than a work group it needs to be powerful enough for that or make it our web server and what not. We will be running Windows Server 2008 R2 (which I need to educate myself on).

Here's what I am thinking.

AMD Bulldozer 8120 for the cpu if it does indeed come out next week, An AM3+ motherboard that can Handle 16gb of ram and also have good hard drive performance., 4x2TB hard drives, another network card obviously.

I will be getting all my parts from www.memoryexpress.com so if you guys make a build for me use that site. (budget is $1500)

Now for the hard drive setup what do you guys recommend? Run Raid 1+0 or 0+1. If there is something better please let me know.

Sorry for my huge noobieness with this stuff.
Edited by Delphi - 10/5/11 at 1:21pm
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I wouldn't go with a Bulldozer for business server. It is not even released yet. I would go something with more mature since we have no idea what bugs may appear with this new architecture. i.e. AMD TLB bug with the Phenom or the Intel B2 chipset flaw with Sandy Bridge.

Website link is bad.

You don't need much power for a file/domain server today... nor in the future. More memory mean more possibility of memory fault which is an unnecessary risk if aren't utilize all that RAM. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../dd346700.aspx

What kind of network do you have? I assume 1GbE? Will you be teaming NICs to provide 2Gb/s to the server?


As with all servers, you need to know exact requirements first to justify hardware selection.
Edited by DuckieHo - 10/5/11 at 1:25pm
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What is the number of employee's in the company?

$1500 is just about enough for one server, though you would want to for redundancy if your rolling the Web server, Domain Controller, and File server into one physical box. You want the Web server in the DMZ too, not rolled into the same server as everything else that is normally highly protected. Though you could repurpose your old server as the web server, put it in the DMZ, and save your self some potential security headaches.

Your best bet would be flipping through Dell's site for a server that has 1-2 socks, 4 cores, and can take in the neighborhood of 5 drives for RAID 5 or 6 (not RAID 0+1).

DC's don't take much resources, neither do file servers; just a bit of some disk space. I recommend RAID 5 or 6 for both redundancy and space effectiveness. Total capacity for RAID 5 is "Total drives -1" while RAID 0+1 is "Total drives /2".
    
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Fixed the link.

Yes we have a 1GbE network. I will be teaming the NIC's to provide 2Gb/s to the server.

As per you "what kind of network" question I am not familiar with what you mean (Noob here) I know that we work of a workgroup basis right now. People are constantly grabbing, replacing, and adding files to it. We have 23 computers connected to it. Certain permissions based on what the person is doing such as the shop computer only has read only permission in the engineering folder. Stuff like that.

Sorry that I am so new to this, but I am a quick learner.
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Fixed the link.

Yes we have a 1GbE network. I will be teaming the NIC's to provide 2Gb/s to the server.

As per you "what kind of network" question I am not familiar with what you mean (Noob here) I know that we work of a workgroup basis right now. People are constantly grabbing, replacing, and adding files to it. We have 23 computers connected to it. Certain permissions based on what the person is doing such as the shop computer only has read only permission in the engineering folder. Stuff like that.

Sorry that I am so new to this, but I am a quick learner.

So far we know:
Domain Server (how many accounts?)
File Server - 23 clients
Web Server (traffic volume?)
Disk space need?
Backup strategy?
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So far we know:
Domain Server (how many accounts?)
File Server - 23 clients
Web Server (traffic volume?)
Disk space need?
Backup strategy?
Domain Server - 23 Accounts

Spoke with my boss and said we will source out our web server.

With regards to disk space I want 4TB. And use another 4TB for backup, and we have a 2TB external HD for an added safety measure for crucial Data.
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Ok, it definitely sounds like you should look up the Microsoft course for AD and windows networking. There are some very good books on it, and really helped me learn how to implement Active Directory and NTFS permissions.

Lots of people think that Network Administration is all about the hardware, but it isn't, it is all about implementing the software.

23 people is way more then can be handled using local accounts and such; it is definitely time to implement AD to make folder permissions, account management, and general user experiences easier.
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What version of server do you plan on running? standard? You might consider using Small Business Server since it provides remote access to internal systems, a simple GUI management console and has Exchange and Sharepoint on it and is pretty much the same price as 2008 Standard. The one bad thing about is the hardware requirements (ram specifically) are much, much higher than a regular server R2 installation. I wouldn't even bother with less than 16GB.

For a expandable small setup I'd probably get that single-socket G34 Supermicro board, the only downside is it doesn't have RAID5 but whatever, stick 2 1TB disks in a mirror for the OS and 4 2TB ones for data.

Thing to point out at this point is you're running out of money. I did a quick price-up for a system on this with relatively inexpensive components and it came to $1300 on the egg which would be a lot less than a manufactured system (server support is always good ). (2x1tb, 4x2tb, AMD 6128, Super board, Antec case, 2x8GB hynix).
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