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This isn't a "right wing" political ruling, it doesn't just help "big bad evil devil corporations" it also helps the individual indie developers from getting ripped off.
I don't see the indie developers demanding that the courts prevent someone reselling their $10 software for $2. It's the companies selling $50-$5000 software and losing out when someone sells it for $15-$500 who are complaining.
    
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This ruling allows the software developers to ultimately own the rights of their software. Imagine if you were the developer and your game was being bought and redistributed, you would feel pretty ripped off.
Like how car/house/computer/furniture/jewelry/cell phone/any other non-perishable product manufacturers must feel?

Yea, I'm a game dev and I still don't care. Game publishers are making billions of dollars, if the game is good enough then the majority of people that can afford it, and like video games, will buy it new.
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Soon it will be written in the small font on the backdoor of your house too, with this sort of precedent.

What sort of home builder wouldn't love to use something like this to force people to always buy new houses? Called keeping business.
Do people ever own their houses? The majority of people finance their houses, very few actually pay them off. When the house is paid off, the owners still has to pay taxes on it and on the land if they own that too. If you own something, you shouldn't owe anyone anything. I've woke up sometime ago, and things are only going to get worse.

They are taking away ownership and turning us into a society of dependency.
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I'll not purchase any piece of media that contains such a clause.

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Do people ever own there houses? The majority of people finance their houses, very few actually pay them off. When the house is paid off, the owners still has to pay taxes on it and on the land if they own that too. If you own something, you shouldn't owe anyone anything. I've woke up sometime ago, and things are only going to get worse.
My mother's house has been paid of for a decade.

I do agree on taxes though. No one really owns any property in most nations, they just lease it from the state.
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Nothing says you can't sell the case, if I sell the case and "forget" the media inside of it or just give it to them at no cost cause I'm a nice guy I'm not really selling anything! haha
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I don't even...
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do developers even get royalties for games sold?

when i buy a game, i want the money to go to the preson who put in the man hours to make that game possible, not some rich CEO who is trying to maximize profit :/
Seriously "some rich CEO who is trying to maximize profit"... yeah that's like saying "I don't want the company to make any money so they can afford to finance the cost of another extremely expensive and entertaining game" haha.

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I don't see the indie developers demanding that the courts prevent someone reselling their $10 software for $2. It's the companies selling $50-$5000 software and losing out when someone sells it for $15-$500 who are complaining.
Every seen an association for game companies? They exist, they lobby, they have plenty of indie members paying dues that pay for the lobbying... and courtroom battles of course.

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Corporations are the citizens! This "hate the corporations movement" has a very limited understanding of how a corporation works, and how absolutely necessary it is for their existence. Yes, governments provide oversight, agreed.

This ruling allows the software developers to ultimately own the rights of their software. Imagine if you were the developer and your game was being bought and redistributed, you would feel pretty ripped off. It's like when an illustrator creates a piece of artwork for a company. The company uses the artwork at a cost but can't sell it to other companies causing the original creator to make nothing. This happened to my father early on in his illustration career, he felt completely ripped off. This isn't a "right wing" political ruling, it doesn't just help "big bad evil devil corporations" it also helps the individual indie developers from getting ripped off.

With that said. As a consumer I don't feel like it's good for the game industry to not be able to sell used games. But I understand why the developers feel otherwise. It's a difficult subject.
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It all comes down to what your citizens want. This won't fly.
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Mmmmm, we aren't buying direct from the corporations right? Retail stores buy them, so why are they getting upset over the consumer selling a used product? If I buy photoshop and I reformat my computer, are they gonna make me buy another copy? Because I won't.

They create a product, retail stocks them on shelves, consumers buy them so they can do what they want with it. How exactly do they plan to enforce this?
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This simply comes from people not understand laws and their constitutions.

Which part of the following is hard to understand?

(15) “United States†means—
(A) a Federal corporation;
(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or
(C) an instrumentality of the United States.

Source

The US, and nearly all countries, are not nations. They are corporations. You see the name of a country in bold on your passport? It's not a country, it's a company, as only company's names are in bold. Countries names are not in bold, only the first letters are in bold. E.g. the United States of America was changed to THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. This is such a simple thing to understand but either it's ignored, not taught or swept under the carpet, with so many believing their governments care for them. If governments cared they'd have banished lobbying.

Fascism? We are living it and most people wanted it, demanded it. You think most people are against this ruling? Most people, even on these boards don't understand and want rules and regulations like this because they believe it's fair. This is what Mussolini envisaged and he's finally got it.

I have used the US as an example, because it's the easiest to understand but there's no difference between the US, GERMANY, DENMARK, RUSSIA, CHINA or GHANA. It is only our perception and the delusion that we live in a better world. I am glad those foolish idea's are being shattered by those marching in NYC, Manchester, Athens, Madrid and elsewhere.
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