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Looking at getting my U2410 a brother (preferably not a twin), or a father depending on how nice my next selection will be.

I was reading reviews and from what I gather from a single thread on Hard Forum, the 2490WUXi2, the successor to the 2490WUXi, is actually inferior due to the lack of the polarizer (causing lighter blacks).

I have seen no proof to the accusation, yet I have also never owned a 2490WUXi. The best monitor I have ever owned is my current U2410 - but I would like to get something not wide gamut. Yeah, I do occasional gaming but I have a tendency to stay away from FPS games nowadays. I will be heavy into DotA2 so quality is a must. I also do some editing and graphic design.

My budget is about $1,500 and my size restrictions are limited to 24", so the WUXi2 seemed ideal. However, I like to aim for better than ideal - and it would make me mad to get a WUXi2 when the WUXi is better.

Are there any monitors that can compete with the NEC for what it's designed for? I saw an NEC MD213 for $5,000 that might do the trick!? wink.gif
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The WUXi is better than the WUXi2 because of the A-TW polarizer which eliminates the silver glow on blacks when viewed on an angle or from close up.

IF you are looking for a screen that can be internally calibrated like the WUXi, the WUXi2 and PA241W and P241W (all from NEC) can do the trick, and they are either sRGB, or sRGB capable in the case of the PA241W. T

The sRGB mode on the PA241W would be far more accurate than the U2410, and can be further calibrated with or without NEC SpectraView II by just attaching an I1D2 colorimeter to the USB port on the side. It supports self-calibration.

I'm a really big fan of the PA series of screens from NEC. They have a lot of capabilities for customizing the screen how you'd like in terms of color space support, and gamma, and you can easily switch between them using the monitor's OSD or software like NEC SpectraView II and Multiprofiler.

If you need a colorimeter you can get the PA241W-BK-SV which will come bundled with Spectraview II and the NEC custom I1D2 colorimeter.

Highly recommended for your purposes.
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Thanks but does NEC make the best monitors?

The three top competitors I could find were NEC, LaCie, and Eizo. Then I started getting more into medical and less suitable monitors - which is why I understand there's no "best" monitor as it all depends on application.

But still, I know NEC and LaCie directly compete, and Eizo is in there somewhere but from what I read they don't use IPS panels?

Where are all you display junkies when I need you!? headscratch.gif
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You just answer the question yourself, it depends on the application that you are into.

Eizo in my opinion is a more expensive version of the NEC with slight or same picture quality. People who own top of the line EIZO ColorEdge CG303W vs the NEC PA301W said they can't distinguish the difference.

LaCie doesn't have that much product line to choose from and really didn't hear much from them.

NEC I am more familiar with since I own 2 of their monitors, even after 8000+ hrs on the display the colors don't shift much I just recently recalibrate my monitor as shape as ever. And the NEC customer service is really top notch, price wise NEC probably the cheapest one among the 3 companies you listed.

Nevertheless getting any of those display you should invest some money get a good calibrator as well.
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The thing is, a lot of these monitors overlap in their capabilities, which makes picking one for a specific application difficult.

In my case, I do a lot of graphic design/web browsing along with a decent amount of RPG/RTS (StarCraft) gaming.

When I read up on the 2490WUXi, I saw not a single complaint. With the WUXi2, I see various complaints here and there. It makes me want to just not get a monitor until a WUXi3 comes out, if that will ever even happen - and who's to say it won't include a polarizer or be lower quality?

That's why I started looking at the Eizo and LaCie monitors, to see if there was a competitor, and I read something saying that the NEC monitors, particularly the Multisync such as the 2490, can't really compete with Eizo FORIS. Didn't say why, but that's why I need help here now. I will say that if the WUXi was still available for sale, I would be highly considering that right now, but since it's not I want to make sure I get the single BEST alternative.

Please help!
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The NEC 2490WUXi has high input lag making it a bad choice for gaming purpose. Secondly, it is not wide gamut it is limited to 72% NTSC vs 92% NTSC on the EIZO FORIS (FX2431) for example.

There is probably a good chance the NEC display has uniformity in backlight bleeding as well.

After a little more research. The Eizo use S-PVA on their FORIS panel vs. H-IPS in NEC panels.

In general what the NEC can do, the Eizo can do it better that is the general result I gather.
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Can anyone confirm this?

Eizo > NEC?
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The thing is, a lot of these monitors overlap in their capabilities, which makes picking one for a specific application difficult.

In my case, I do a lot of graphic design/web browsing along with a decent amount of RPG/RTS (StarCraft) gaming.

When I read up on the 2490WUXi, I saw not a single complaint. With the WUXi2, I see various complaints here and there. It makes me want to just not get a monitor until a WUXi3 comes out, if that will ever even happen - and who's to say it won't include a polarizer or be lower quality?

That's why I started looking at the Eizo and LaCie monitors, to see if there was a competitor, and I read something saying that the NEC monitors, particularly the Multisync such as the 2490, can't really compete with Eizo FORIS. Didn't say why, but that's why I need help here now. I will say that if the WUXi was still available for sale, I would be highly considering that right now, but since it's not I want to make sure I get the single BEST alternative.

Please help!

Eizo FORIS? They are the "multimedia" versions and they don't compete with the WUXI or PA series from NEC. ColorEdge/CG is the top Eizo line and it is twice the price of the PA series, for very little extra capability.

The CG are great screens, but that is a niche market, just like those 1024 level grey scale medical displays you looked at.

The WUXi2 received complaints due to the loss of A-TW polarizer which reduced off-angle black level distortion and glow. If you want one of those you need to look at the LG W2420R or HP LP2480ZX displays, or find an original WUXi-BK monitor used.

The LG is nearly impossible to find outside Europe, and the HP is around $2000.00, so it's out of your budget.

I'd still recommend the PA241W-BK-SV for your uses. If you need low input lag you can put the U2410 in game mode.

Otherwise get a Dell U2412M with sRGB gamut, and LED back-light, a decent calibration suite like a Spyder 3 4.0 Pro (or whatever the heck it's called now) and you'll be fine there too.
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