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Greetings all, my first post on Overclock.net I am a computer enthusiast and I do everything from hardware, networking, programming, and the whole nine yards. I am also A+ and Cisco Certified. Today I will be posting my next build I plan on buying for community input. I know a build takes several hours to build and I have been working on this build for a long time planning it while the money becomes available.

Main Rig
Optical => http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204
Case => http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042
Mobo => http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131754
GPU => http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102948
PSU => http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139020
Ram => http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231314
CPU => http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103808
SSD => http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148441

Optional (I will be buying)
1x 140mm => http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103077
4x 120mm => http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103022

Grand total with promo codes: $783.68 (will expire probably before I purchase so $793.68 is more realistic of a price)

Thoughts on a $800 budget gaming rig? This should set me up for bulldozer drop and go support.
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post #2 of 26
Why are you going to waste 100+ dollars on a CPU rather than waiit less than a month to buy bulldozer?

The rest looks fine.
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Either wait for BD or go with Intel. For this price you really shouldn't be looking at the Phenom II.

The overall cost of the CPU and motherboard is more expensive than some i5 based systems.
    
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With the FX 4100 releasing very soon (some retailers are already hosting pre-orders) in the $120 range, I also suggest you wait.

The case and the PSU are poor choices.
Edited by xd_1771 - 10/5/11 at 4:02pm
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Why are you going to waste 100+ dollars on a CPU rather than waiit less than a month to buy bulldozer?

The rest looks fine.
Because for $105 which isn't very much for a CPU that will run all the latest games, and games still to come without breaking a sweat. Also on a $800 budget knocking out $300+ for a bulldozer weakens the build in other areas greatly. I also didn't mention I have a time frame to order this build else rebates and promo codes will expire and put me over my budget (dozer is still in production).

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Either wait for BD or go with Intel. For this price you really shouldn't be looking at the Phenom II.

The overall cost of the CPU and motherboard is more expensive than some i5 based systems.
A i5 based system will cost more then triple of this socket. I wouldn't aim any lower then the 760 which already puts me $209 in the hole. I'm not looking for computing power im a solely a gamer that does other development type stuff that doesn't require fast cores. If I was into video rendering or another type stuff I would aim for a Intel based system, but im not. Let me also mention this build is coming to me completely free. Its an upgrade from a socket 939 running a Athlon 64 3800+ Venice @ 2.4ghz (single core) with 3gb of pc-3200 184pin 400mhz DDR, 160gb 7200rpm HDD 8mb cache SATA II, and a HD 4650 PCI-Express (in a 1.0 slot). So I think the value of the rig is quite good, my aim was for a much bigger build that also reflects quality for the right price.


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With the FX 4100 releasing very soon (some retailers are already hosting pre-orders) in the $120 range, I also suggest you wait.

The case and the PSU are poor choices.
I didn't imagine this community being that so poorly experienced in performance computing. The three hundred has superior airflow for its price range. I'm not looking for to spend $150 on a case when you only have a $800 budget to start with. The 650w are plenty to power the machine even with a bulldozer dropped in. I don't plan on ever plan on CrossfireX but it could happen sometime in the future... way way into the future. By then I will just buy a bigger PSU. To be honest I don't ever plan on buying an upgrade for this rig. After 5-8 years from now I will just ****-can it and get another, just like I am now.
Edited by Warmonger - 10/5/11 at 4:07pm
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post #6 of 26

I should explain what I said about the case and PSU.
For significantly less cost, the

provides an equal cooling layout but also provides cable management options. The build quality is solid and it is painted black on the interior. It has all these benefits and more over the Antec 300 for a lower $40 shipped.
Secondly, the TX650W is overpriced. If you are paying more than $60 for a 600-650W you are being ripped off. The Rosewill RG630 provides similar wattage capacity and high quality power delivery for a much lower $60 shipped.
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I should explain what I said about the case and PSU.
For significantly less cost, the NZXT Source 210 provides an equal cooling layout but also provides cable management options. The build quality is solid and it is painted black on the interior. It has all these benefits and more over the Antec 300 for a lower $40 shipped.
Secondly, the TX650W is overpriced. If you are paying more than $60 for a 600-650W you are being ripped off. The Rosewill RG630 provides similar wattage capacity and high quality power delivery for a much lower $60 shipped.
The initial PSU was the CX600 v2 which is a fine PSU. But my budget has a 20-30 gap in it and no other place for me to improve except the PSU. So I chose the 650w over the 600w just to eat the money that ain't mine.

As for the case im leaning more toward the three hundred, both cases are very similar in design but the three hundred has a full mesh front grill to provide better airflow with 2x 120mm intake fans to feed the GPU and the hard drives with cool air. I made sure the board has enough heads on it to handle all these fans also. So they wont be noisy when cool n' quite takes over control.
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post #8 of 26
The RG630 is a significantly better quality unit in so many ways for $10 less than the CX 600 v2. I do not recommend the CX 600 v2 at all.
The Source 210 has adequate airflow options, including front fan mounting. Although there is no meshing and the airflow comes in from the sides, proper planning of air pressure should mean that this makes no difference. The case design on my Antec P180 is pretty much the same but I get more than adequate airflow into the case from the front. The cable management options will make a huge difference in terms of airflow; hiding your cables or at least getting them out of the way significantly improves airflow in a case.

You could use the extra money for a GPU upgrade. Consider going HD 6950 or GTX 560 Ti. Or you could jump for a six core or eight core FX CPU.
Edited by xd_1771 - 10/5/11 at 4:17pm
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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
The RG630 is a significantly better quality unit in so many ways for $10 less than the CX 600 v2. I do not recommend the CX 600 v2 at all.
The Source 210 has adequate airflow options, including front fan mounting. Although there is no meshing and the airflow comes in from the sides, proper planning of air pressure should mean that this makes no difference. The case design on my Antec P180 is pretty much the same but I get more than adequate airflow into the case from the front. The cable management options will make a huge difference in terms of airflow; hiding your cables or at least getting them out of the way significantly improves airflow in a case.

You could use the extra money for a GPU upgrade. Consider going HD 6950 or GTX 560 Ti. Or you could jump for a six core or eight core FX CPU.
I'm thinking the HD 6870 will offer the best bang for my buck in its price range. It benchs better then the GTX 560, and the GTX 560 Ti isn't sold retail anymore by newegg (also would most likely crack a huge hole in my budget). Even if I dropped the PSU for the Roswell (lower quality psu) just to save $10 it still wont cover a bigger GPU to make a noticeable difference over the 6870. My goal with this rig is to try and stay on a quality build (same hardware manufacture for each piece of hardware) without exceeding my budget.
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post #10 of 26
The Rosewill RG630 is a PSU of roughly equal quality compared to the TX650 V2. If it is lower, it would not be by much. It will do the job with a high efficiency. Many OCN PSU experts will suggest it. It is of high quality. The RG630 is most certainly way better than the CX 600 V2 however, and not just in price ($10 less) - but also power supply capability. The RG630 can supply 50A on the 12V rail (600W), a huge difference over the mere 480W on the 12V rail (40A) of the CX600. The 12V rail powers the most power intensive components in a modern PC (CPU, GPU, chipsets, etc.) and is the most important to consider aside from the internals manufacturer (OEM) and quality.

You may be more comfortable choosing the Seasonic S12II 620, which is on sale for $60 shipped right now [see OCN's Online Deals forum]. Seasonic is a more well-known brand and most certainly reputable, and the S12II 620 is certainly capable. Hurry up though, that deal is on its way to disappearance!

The GTX 560 is almost a rebranded GTX 460. The HD 6870 should indeed bench better.
Newegg still retails the 560 Ti... the HD 6950 is also a great option.
Edited by xd_1771 - 10/5/11 at 8:31pm
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