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post #41 of 50
The problem is moar cores doesn't scale for most tasks.

There are some users who do nothing but rendering/folding and these chips will give great ppd/per dollar.

The concern comes from AMD's misleading marketing, calling the 6990 the worlds fastest gpu based on 3DMark11 when their drivers aren't even supported due to AMD using them to turn off the tessellation is a shining example of why marketing an eight core cpu as a "gaming" chip is a shady apporch.
    
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I just can't wait to a more reputable site get's the chips before I pass judgement on it. I don't trust this "leaked" nonsense. If the 8 core fx gives me like 80% of 2600k for like $50 less, then that's a win for me since AMD is more of a value oriented company.
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Wait why are people trying to make it sound its a bad thing that the 8 core bulldozers are competing witht he "quad-core" i7s?

Last I heard i7 2600 quad-cores have hyper threading allowing them essentially to have 8 threads.

On the other hand the bulldozer architecture is designed so that each core module is made up of 2 cores, therefore 8 threads as well

The fight is 8 thread vs 8 thread no matter how you want to spin it


Correct me if im wrong
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Because when the i7 can't use HT it doesn't lose 50% of it's performance.
    
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post #45 of 50
In the manufacturers' minds, the FX series may well be up against Westmere.

In the consumer's minds, it's up against Sandy Bridge. It's always been that way for me and several others here, anyway.
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Because when the i7 can't use HT it doesn't lose 50% of it's performance.
That's a very in accurate statement. BD will not loos 50% performance just because the software does not support more then 4 cores.
    
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hurry up with the benchies, my wifes build needs a processor/mobo!!
i have to see which is best in multi-tasking, she needs the power.
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Give me a break, when 6 and 8 cores can barely keep up with 4 something is wrong here.
They're not full cores, they may have the schedulers and pipelines but they still have some shared things, its 8 threads vs 8 threads.

And in the end, if they cost similar amounts, does it matter how many cores there are? No, it's either faster or slower for what I do, it doesn't really matter how it gets that speed/lack of speed, it either has the speed or it doesn't.


Besides, so far it shapes up that BD will be slower clock for clock than SB but clock a bit higher, here's hoping the higher OC lets it beat or match SB.
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That's a very in accurate statement. BD will not loos 50% performance just because the software does not support more then 4 cores.
No?

So if software only supports four cores an eight core chip will still be just as fast as it would have been if it supported eight?

Please explain your reasoning.
    
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I was thinking about reopening this thread but I am going to go against it because of what I just witnessed.

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