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post #191 of 448
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Originally Posted by Cyclonic View Post
Yeah that has a bug in c1 revision

I c it like this:

1) People with loads of cash are gonna get sb-e
2) People that want high performace now will get i7 2600k and upgrade to ivy.
3) People that want price/performace gonna get the FX, it keeps getting faster later on when games and programs gonna support more threads and its new cpu instructions.

Long term FX is the winner.
Just keep telling yourself that...

A lot of programs don't need 8 cores and will never use them as it is easier to code for 1-4 threads that are continuously getting faster as technology advances anyhow. Processors have rapidly evolved into multithreaded beasts, programs have not.
 
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post #192 of 448
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Originally Posted by Jagged_Steel View Post
You are looking at the problem and process of making chips incorrectly. A certain amount of chips on any wafer will have defects in them, using current production methods. Many times a defect will affect only a certain portion of a chip. By designing the chip so that all or some lessor quantity of the cores can be used has been AMDs design philosophy for a long time now- that is what the whole "unlocking " craze is all about. So, a 4 core chip with a flaw in 1 core is programmed to function with 2 of the good cores- this is exactly my situation with my 555 (955 with a flaw in 1 core). My guess is that AMD is continuing with this philosophy with the BD series.
sure, they will do that for 6 cores, and to some degree I'd bet based on the geometery of the fialure, the 4 cores. I still will bet your kiester, becuase yours is free, that they have a dedicated 2 module mask, becuase its nearly FREE to manufacture. The would be the whole idea behind a modular chip design, add and remove modules at will.

I would still lay large odds, that the 4 cores, most of them, will be there own mask minus 2 modules, becuase you get a massive bump in wafer density, those chips should be 160-170sqmm. So they should be able to make alot more of them on a single wafer versus cutting down fialed bd cores.
post #193 of 448
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Originally Posted by Icekilla View Post
Well hello there SB-E
Yeah. Unfortunately a Ivy Bridge compatible mobo and a 2500K may be the way that I go.

If they could have gotten one full module to work per thread, that would have been a game changer and most likely put the whole BD line in the lead in perf. per thread.

Unless I read year and a half old article wrong and 1 module to a thread was Terramar or Sepang or there is some magic bios revision that increases the PPC, I can't see where 20 'leaked' benchmarks that all seem to putt' the performance in very similar brackets are fake.
Edited by pengs - 10/6/11 at 11:40am
post #194 of 448
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Originally Posted by 996gt2 View Post
Cinebench 10 single-threaded score:
FX8150: 4074
Nehalem i7 965: ~4900
2500K/2600K: ~5800
IPC looks bad, my E4500 @ 3.3GHz in single-thread scores 3747.
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post #195 of 448
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Originally Posted by Cyclonic View Post
3) People that want price/performace gonna get the FX, it keeps getting faster later on when games and programs gonna support more threads and its new cpu instructions.
It might be faster than i5 2500 in multi-threaded benchs but the gap is not big between the two. I rather have better performance per core than slightly better multi-threaded performance. If FX8150 price is same as i5 2500 then i5 2500 is better bang for the buck (my opinion)
Edited by ThePath - 10/6/11 at 11:52am
post #196 of 448
I took a ss of the article before they pulled it.... Not sure how it will turn out on here though.....here it goes...

Edit: Looks better here --> http://oi53.tinypic.com/2mhejvt.jpg


Edited by Canis-X - 10/6/11 at 11:57am
   
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post #197 of 448
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Originally Posted by Cyclonic View Post
Yeah that has a bug in c1 revision

I c it like this:

1) People with loads of cash are gonna get sb-e
2) People that want high performace now will get i7 2600k and upgrade to ivy.
3) People that want price/performace gonna get the FX, it keeps getting faster later on when games and programs gonna support more threads and its new cpu instructions.

Long term FX is the winner.
To make a car analogy:
Why would I buy a "family" car with space for five people and a big trunk to get some use out of it after five years?
Buy what is fastest for the programs you use now, and when you upgrade you upgrade to what is fastest.

Or you could ask those who bought the Phenom II X6 because it was such a "great value" and "futureproof" when it launched. Look at how much more "futureproof" those have turned out to be compared to a X4 9xx BE.

EDIT:
This is bad news for us, Intel still dominates and AMD is playing catch-up. I really wished for BD to crush SB so we could get a pricewar going.

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Originally Posted by Canis-X View Post
I took a ss of the article before they pulled it.... Not sure how it will turn out on here though.....here it goes...
You sure you couldn't make it a bit smaller?
Edited by Arni90 - 10/6/11 at 11:57am
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I can't wait to see what the threads look like when the real reviews hit, people seem to feel really strongly about this stuff.
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This thread is nothing but 22 pages so far of nothing but the already expected results. BD is somewhere in between 2500k and 2600k. If thats really the case it looks like a decent deal for AMD fans. I hope the server 16 core cpus are pretty good too.
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It is good to see that many are trying to find excuses and detract from the larger picture. If before the majority said, Bulldozer will kill SB, now they are saying, it was never meant to compete with SB, Intel sucks at making processors because they are not optimized for windows but Bulldozer is ....


No matter the scenario, AMD wins by default! Why do we even open these threads is BD won already?
 
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