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This reminds of the Athlon 64 days when AMD got the chips out very early to attract customers. Many bought them because AMD's marketing department toyed with the 64 bit OS notion, yet this operating system barely had any working drivers on it. The internet was filled with AMD people bashing INTEL users for the lack of 64 bit support. Intel did not even bother until it was agreed with Microsoft to bring 64 bit OS and support to the masses. That is when the EMT64 CPUs showed up. By the time 64 bit became popular, the same AMD fanboyz who bought the future proof Athlons to use with that 64 bit OS, changed their CPUs to newer AMD chips which had 64. So their future proof investment ... was not so future proof.

Now AMD comes out with the first 'octo-core' CPU before the majority of apps can take advantage of it. By the time these will be popular, 100% of bulldozer users here on OCN will have sold their chips for better ones from AMD. Let us not even go into the INTEL side of the octo-core business because they seem to be doing them at the right time and most importantly with significant performance.


At the moment, the benefit of having a Bulldozer CPU over my I7 920 rigs clocked @ over 4 GHz is minimal. I've had the performance for 3 years now whereas other people stayed with their old AMD setups and waited for BD. What a disappointment ! This is what blind fanboyism leads too! Finding excuses not to buy a better product from the competition, filling OCN with speculation on how awesome AMD's new best thing is and then when it flops, finding excuses for why it flopped. The weather sucked, the mailman was late, yadda yadda.
Edited by Wishmaker - 10/7/11 at 4:38am
 
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The 920 was expensive as hell when it came out. Much more so then the 2600k or FX 8150 are now. But as my 920 is also still running strong it was well worth it.
    
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At the moment, the benefit of having a Bulldozer CPU over my I7 920 rigs clocked @ over 4 GHz is minimal. I've had the performance for 3 years now whereas other people stayed with their old AMD setups and waited for BD. What a disappointment ! This is what blind fanboyism leads too! Finding excuses not to buy a better product from the competition, filling OCN with speculation on how awesome AMD's new best thing is and then when it flops, finding excuses for why it flopped. The weather sucked, the mailman was late, yadda yadda.
or it could be some people just dont like the way Intel does buisness.


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The 920 was expensive as hell when it came out. Much more so then the 2600k or FX 8150 are now. But as my 920 is also still running strong it was well worth it.
The i7-920 launched at $284. How is that "expensive as hell" when it's right in between the launch price of a 2500K and 2600K?

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According to the chaps over at Intel, the launch prices will be about $284 for the i7-920, $562 for the i7-940 and finally nearly $1000 for the i7-965.
From http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...or-review.html
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The 920 was expensive as hell when it came out. Much more so then the 2600k or FX 8150 are now. But as my 920 is also still running strong it was well worth it.
NO it wasn't. It was the same price the 920/930 and later the 950 was sold for. That is - just under 290 dollars. Proof: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2658/20 "Quite possibly the biggest threat to Nehalem is that, even at the low end, $284 is a good amount for a microprocessor these days." "By introducing a $284 part this early Intel appears to be courting the Q6600/Q9450/Q9550 buyers to the LGA-1366 platform.."

The 260k is actually much more expensive at ~330 dollars than the ~290 dollar 920. So, friend, you've got that backwards.

Aw, ninja'd.

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or it could be some people just dont like the way Intel does buisness.


-dimwit-
Well, that's up to you, but I think Intel does their business just fine. They treat their customers quite properly. They fix things when they're broken (and they're rarely broken) and they've offered a superior product at nice prices for the past 5 years. They could have price gouged the market back during the Conroe days, Phenom I days, or even during the Nehalem days - but they didn't.

If you're still on about that BS back during the Pentium 4 days.. give it a rest. That was ten years ago. You think AMD hasn't done anything shady during their existence? Then you're naive to business in general. For one, they've lied to their customers all year. "Q2" right up until the day the delay was announced JF-AMD was in here (and elsewhere) promising "it's right on time, there's no delay" then "60-90 days" and then it didn't pan out either. They promised IPC improvements - instead we're seeing Thuban outpacing the 8150.

But hey - if you wish to throw hundreds of dollars toward an inferior product - so be it. Don't let us "fanboys" stop you.
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or it could be some people just dont like the way Intel does buisness.


-dimwit-
This is the worst arguement of all time though

If you opened your eyes you would realise that EVERY big corporation has shady dealings. And if you boycotted every single product released by those companies you basically wouldn't have anything you enjoy today. Its the most retarded arguement of all time. If big busniess didn't do some suspect "quiet" deals then the world wouldn't go round.

If you seriously think AMD don't have "under the table" deals then you're a fool
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This is the worst arguement of all time though

If you opened your eyes you would realise that EVERY big corporation has shady dealings. And if you boycotted every single product released by those companies you basically wouldn't have anything you enjoy today. Its the most retarded arguement of all time. If big busniess didn't do some suspect "quiet" deals then the world wouldn't go round.

If you seriously think AMD don't have "under the table" deals then you're a fool
Ok, you love Intel, we get it. Why are you in a Bulldozer thread? Is Intel paying you to convert people? No. So again, why are you posting in a Bulldozer thread?

Shouldn't you be discussing the joygasm that Intel gives you with other converts instead of insulting people that support the competition?
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or it could be some people just dont like the way Intel does buisness.


-dimwit-

its the reason why i buy amd only


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This is the worst arguement of all time though

If you opened your eyes you would realise that EVERY big corporation has shady dealings. And if you boycotted every single product released by those companies you basically wouldn't have anything you enjoy today. Its the most retarded arguement of all time. If big busniess didn't do some suspect "quiet" deals then the world wouldn't go round.

If you seriously think AMD don't have "under the table" deals then you're a fool
so we must encourage every shady corporations???


we have choices .. and we use these to our likings ...

its called freedom
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its the reason why i buy amd only




so we must encourage every shady corporations???


we have choices .. and we use these to our likings ...

its called freedom
It's Intel,so it must be ok for them to bribe the OEM's,and pay companies to not use AMD processors. Inb4thatisoldsoIntelmusn'tdothatanymore.
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This is the worst arguement of all time though

If you opened your eyes you would realise that EVERY big corporation has shady dealings. And if you boycotted every single product released by those companies you basically wouldn't have anything you enjoy today. Its the most retarded arguement of all time. If big busniess didn't do some suspect "quiet" deals then the world wouldn't go round.

If you seriously think AMD don't have "under the table" deals then you're a fool
Why would AMD have "under the table deals"? Tell me how huge Intel is as corporation,now what about AMD? Intel being the larger company,you would think they have less shady deals,but they don't.
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This reminds of the Athlon 64 days when AMD got the chips out very early to attract customers. Many bought them because AMD's marketing department toyed with the 64 bit OS notion, yet this operating system barely had any working drivers on it. The internet was filled with AMD people bashing INTEL users for the lack of 64 bit support. Intel did not even bother until it was agreed with Microsoft to bring 64 bit OS and support to the masses. That is when the EMT64 CPUs showed up. By the time 64 bit became popular, the same AMD fanboyz who bought the future proof Athlons to use with that 64 bit OS, changed their CPUs to newer AMD chips which had 64. So their future proof investment ... was not so future proof.

Now AMD comes out with the first 'octo-core' CPU before the majority of apps can take advantage of it. By the time these will be popular, 100% of bulldozer users here on OCN will have sold their chips for better ones from AMD. Let us not even go into the INTEL side of the octo-core business because they seem to be doing them at the right time and most importantly with significant performance.


At the moment, the benefit of having a Bulldozer CPU over my I7 920 rigs clocked @ over 4 GHz is minimal. I've had the performance for 3 years now whereas other people stayed with their old AMD setups and waited for BD. What a disappointment ! This is what blind fanboyism leads too! Finding excuses not to buy a better product from the competition, filling OCN with speculation on how awesome AMD's new best thing is and then when it flops, finding excuses for why it flopped. The weather sucked, the mailman was late, yadda yadda.
You're forgetting AMD came up with the whole 64 bit idea,Intel just took it as if it were theirs. AMD will also be the first to have a 8 core desktop CPU. Your "its not future proof so it is crap!" nonsense is moot because processor technology advances anyway.
At the moment your 4Ghz i7 is an improvement over a fake leak or if real,a broken ES FX CPU. The same goes for bashing the competition over "leaked" crap and filling OCN with speculation how much BD is going to suck.
Lol,us fanboys?
Edited by Heavy MG - 10/7/11 at 6:20am
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