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the MSRP of the H50 is like $90

not really expecting them to have a street price anywhere close to MSRP
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post #42 of 72
Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsairGeorge View Post
The price dropped $20 MSRP by removing the two fans. The radiator cost was about the same - and like I said, unless you're at about 2000-2500 RPM, the CORE radiator is actually better.

Also, the cold plate is improved.

For the other question about the cold plates, the fins are skived out of the copper on the H70 CORE.
Does the H70 Core use the same plate as the original H70? Can you provide of the plate?
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I respect the whole "closed loop" WC system for people dabbling into a WC'ing venture as I did with an off-brand closed loop cooler. I am now awaiting fittings and mounting screws to finish up my first custom loop

That aside, I don't like how these types of products are now hitting the exact same price points as the high end air coolers, without (hypothesizing here) competitive performance. The H50 and H70 are decent coolers at a comfortable price point, but the new versions cost more with less performance?

I digress, as these new guys may perform better than the originals.

They should still give fans, for fun. Can't have too many 120's!
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Originally Posted by i7monkey View Post
No offense, but how many versions of this crap do they intend to make? It's like EVGA releasing 50 different versions of the 580
Hard to not take offense when you call a product I've been working on for a year "crap", but I'll do my best.

The H70 CORE exists because there's a $40 price gap between the H60 and the H80, and because people have been asking for a fanless Hydro for 2 years now.

The H40 exists to act as a low price point entry to Hydro series. It'll outperform stock coolers, and most low-end aircoolers, and even though it's MSRP is $59 I expect it'll dip down below that with rebates quite often.

I know it seems like a lot, but our competitors have dozens of aircoolers, so I don't see why two more hydro coolers would add any confusion. But I guess you guys will make or break the plan - if you don't buy something, it'll die off and that's that. But I think that there's room in the market for them.
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Looks good for a GPU cooler.
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post #46 of 72
Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsairGeorge View Post
The price dropped $20 MSRP by removing the two fans. The radiator cost was about the same - and like I said, unless you're at about 2000-2500 RPM, the CORE radiator is actually better.

Also, the cold plate is improved.

For the other question about the cold plates, the fins are skived out of the copper on the H70 CORE.
The CORE radiator will be most likely be better as you said at low fan speeds because its thinner. But these are designed for "enthusiasts" who use these for overclocking so using the old, thicker H70 would have been better because a lot of "enthusiasts" do indeed use fast fans upwards of 2000RPM.
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post #47 of 72
Wow, sounds like the gpu naming scheme from a few years back. Overly confusing to the end consumer and not truly reflective of performance. That now two H70s one thinner and one discontinued. three lower end ones and on high end one...and the discontinued H50. Sounds like Corsair had a few boxes of extra parts lying around (maybe from RMAs lol) and need to bring out some new product lines to get rid of them. Would have been easyer to offer a "pick a part" and sell them as snap together kits. Say you want 20" water lines but the old school H50 pump and the fatter H70 rad. Just supply snap connectors and clip it all together.

Serious though, i like corsair and have two of their Hxx series coolers in my pc right now. I use the H100 on my cpu and i use the discontinued H70 on my gpu. Both work awsome but why dont they just try something new like a closed loops gpu cooler instead of flooding the market with a bunch of similar overlapping coolers??? Corporate greed perhaps (its the new buzz word and im using it when ever i can), walk on wall street baby WOOT

Edit**

As mentioned above, filling the gap as not to lose any money by not coving a market at the cost of confusion. Just because there is a "gap" does not mean a chance to make money. Try dropping your prices and poof, void filled. Crazy sounding i know but serious, consitering whats happening on wallstreet it may not be the best time to introduce a new money maker for corsair.....oops Corsiars investors
Edited by cravinmild - 10/6/11 at 10:17pm
post #48 of 72
I'm personally very excited for the H70 core. It offers the level of performance I need combined with the fact I don't have to pay extra for fans I don't need. (I plan on using two Gentle Typhoon AP-14s).

The H40 is an interesting product as well. I could see that being very handy as an alternative to stock/low-end aircoolers in a compact form-factor.

Do we have any information for how the pump of the H70 core might compare to the original H50 noise-wise?
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This is how companies boost sales. They release the same models with minor revisions
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Corrections need made in OP about H70 and that graph a page back or where ever is helpful.

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Originally Posted by CorsairGeorge View Post
Hard to not take offense when you call a product I've been working on for a year "crap", but I'll do my best.

The H70 CORE exists because there's a $40 price gap between the H60 and the H80, and because people have been asking for a fanless Hydro for 2 years now.

The H40 exists to act as a low price point entry to Hydro series. It'll outperform stock coolers, and most low-end aircoolers, and even though it's MSRP is $59 I expect it'll dip down below that with rebates quite often.

I know it seems like a lot, but our competitors have dozens of aircoolers, so I don't see why two more hydro coolers would add any confusion. But I guess you guys will make or break the plan - if you don't buy something, it'll die off and that's that. But I think that there's room in the market for them.
Ah.. don't take offense. There's a person to hate on every idea. The graph posted before makes sense of things. I think the line needs better balancing, though. I love my H100 and will be a dedicated customer.
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