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i have just recently managed to overclock my Q6600 to 3.4ghz for video editing.
P5N-E SLI mobo (sucks at oc'ing quads) took me days to find the right settings.
4gb ram pc6400
Arctic Freezer Pro 7 Rev 2

when i ran real temp its got a sensor test that runs prime 95, at first using the stock intel fan the computer keeps shutting down halfway the test and the temperature was going to 80c, so i bought the arctic freezer hoping to cool it down and prevent it from shutting down when im doing video editing. now when i ran real test with prime i get through the whole test, but my concern is the temperature, the cpu when idle is around 35-50c. and when its full load its around 60-65c sometimes 75c, is it safe? specially when im editing video it goes to 75c, it used to be 80-85 with the stock cooler.

1. is my overclock safe to be running at these temps?

also the northbridge is set to 1.5v, anything lesser or more is giving me stability problems, is this safe tho to be running it at 1.5v? how much volts can the northbridge take? lastly the core voltage, it used to be 1.5 but i managed to get it down and stable to 1.45v. anything lesser causes problems when on real temp sensor test with prime95.

bought case fans today, 1 120mm antec tricool fan and a pci slot fan for my gpu it still around
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Q6600 Spec

TCase 71* C

I would be much happier if you could get down to 68* max load and not for extended periods of time.

I would also invest in a North Bridge Fan.

what TIM are you using. got to look at everything to squeeze out some extra temp gains.
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sorry what is a TIM? im new to this whole overclock thing.

how do you think i can make the cpu temp go down to say around what u said? if i only knew i should have invested more on a much better cpu fan, i already bought that arctic freezer tho i cant return it either.

im gonna look into that northbridge fan, anything in mind you wanna suggest? also is the Tcase temp the same with the CPU temp that shows on real temp?
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My apologies.

T.I.M.

Thermal Interface Material

The white/Silver stuff between the CPU and heat Sink...comes in a tube.

I do not use Realtemp often.

I assume it probably says like TCase 100 by default.

just know that you should not exceed the thermal specs of the chip suggested by Intel.

It won't just out right kill the chip. It certainly will decrease its life tremendously.

For Northbridge cooling...I just bought two 40x10mm fans and glued them together.

I then rubber banded them to north bridge heat sink.

This is a picture of the fans I have on my NB in my sig rig.

Better Picture Added -_-



Yeah from what I read the Hyper 212+ beats the 7 in temps.

Hopefully others will chime in. Maybe you can change out the fan to get increased performance from that cooler.

Also I just read that it comes with its own TIM PAD pre-installed.

You should most likely 90% trash that crap and apply your own.

I use MX-2 just pref. Everyone likes there own brand.

When I was on Air...I used to run a Prolimatech Megahalems in a Push/Pull configuration. (2 fans)

I have now put that on my Wife's Q6600 rig. (I am actually rebuilding that tonight)

Here is a pic of that configuration on my sig rig.

I painted the Mega myself it usually comes in standard Silver.


Edited by NitroNarcosis - 10/6/11 at 12:55pm
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the arctic silver already came with a Thermal Paste, i believe its the MX2.

i also have 2 40x10mm fans lying around here but im tryna figure out the connections for it? where to plug it in? already have all the cpu fan slots on the motherboard filled out.

if the tcase is the same with the cpu temp reading then im going above the recommended tcase temp for the G6600? would this fry my processor if i use it for the whole week? i have a project to finish, maybe i should set it back to normal and not overclock it until i get a better cpu fan?
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post #6 of 15
I would just get some y splitters and piggy back them to the mobo headers

I would separate them from the larger fans though.

Ok so it was not a thermal pad. You actually applied the paste.

which method did you use to apply the thermal compound? (TIM)

There is a bb or pea method and a straight line method

Both are acceptable I prefer the bb/pea sized dot in the middle method.

Sometimes you get a bad Mount.

A mount is refering to when you apply thermal paste a attach the HSF (Heat sink + fan) to the motherboard.

That is why most of us do 3-4 mounts every time we build. -_-

You can check for previous mount when you pull the HSF off the board. Turn the HSF over and look at the spread (The spread of the TIM)

If it is not even or you see blank spots or bubbles (your previous mount was bad or not optimal)

I consider myself and most of the regulars here to be quite proficient in doing mounts properly, but even the experts after months of not doing it can mess up a few times here and there.

I do not wish to discourage you, but hope that I have been informative enough to help you better understand the process.

Most would say...you glob some gray stuff on the chip and plop that bad boy down and your done.

But when you are Overclocking and you NEED those precious * C then you better make sure you are taking the mounting process seriously.

Try not to let the HSF slide all around while mounting. Some assemblies make this hella difficult.

The Tuniq tower comes to mind. Trying to get my hands beneath the HSF and trying to screw in those darn thumb screws...lots of sloppy mounts lol.

Some enthusiasts will perform two quarter turns in both directions before tightening the bolts or screws on the HSF.

Heck some even use a credit card or Popsicle stick and smooth out the thermal paste. ( I recommend against this)

but basically just take it one step at a time.

Even though there are procedures and we make something that is fairly simple very very perplexing. It becomes second nature.

Welcome to the great world of analism. Enjoy the stay.
Edited by NitroNarcosis - 10/6/11 at 1:14pm
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its pre applied MX 2 thermal compound
http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/detail?sArticle=4.%3F

if i remount it would i need to redo the thermal paste? if thats the case i would need to get a thermal paste. MX2 again?
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post #8 of 15
I have a fan on my NB also running off the FDD power (as i don't use it)



Using an AC freezer 13 with MX2 paste (applied as a line) I changed the standard fan for one with a higher air movement figure to reduce temps again.

use realtemp to see your distance to Tjmax, as long as you stay under 20C of tjmax you should be ok.
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post #9 of 15
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its pre applied MX 2 thermal compound
http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/detail?sArticle=4.%3F

if i remount it would i need to redo the thermal paste? if thats the case i would need to get a thermal paste. MX2 again?
You would need to purchase new thermal compound...YES.

To acquire better temps, that is your best bet.

Note: Thermal Paste usually provide Nominal temp gains.

like 1-2* some can even get 10* on the Rarest occasions...when pitted against an inferior lower TIM.

but remember we are grabbing at anything we can get.

Can you provide a pic of your case as the guy above did.

It will help us also critique your case flow situation.
post #10 of 15
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sorry guys for the late reply, i tried last nyt to resit the cpu fan to follow aramil's pic cause i had the cpu fan facing down but after putting it all back together it wont load the os, i probably misconnected something somewhere probably the hardrives, now i just got back from the shop and got me an MX2 and im just about to apply it. i took some pics but this computer that im writing at is too slow to deal with copying and uploading LOL i'll post later if i get my computer up and running again, with some pics

cheers gonna go research on how to apply the TIM the right way
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