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Hey guys, you can see my specs on my signature.

I was using for like two weeks my GTX 580 running at 900/1800/4200 @ 1.100mV, i remember testing it with ATI Tool for some time and i wasn't seeing any artifacts and i didn't get any other problem at all.

I was checking today the artifact test in ATI Tool software i could notice some yellow dots around the image (inside the software test window) and i got some errors too, which happens when the software detects the artifact.

So, what could be wrong? Should i step my overclock back a little?

I tried using 860/1720/2100 @ 1.063mV and it seems stable so far, no artifacts found but i lost some FPS in Battlefield 3, of course.

What could've happened for my previous "stable" OC to fail? I'm pretty frustrated since i think i tested enough, and i don't want to test this again in another two weeks and find out that i can see artifacts using the 860/1720/2100 too. Could that even happen?

Any ideas here?

(There is always the possibility that last time i checked @ 900/1800/2100 1.100mV, the test could have been too fast, and maybe if i did let it go for more time i could've found an error, or maybe not!).

Thanks a lot =D
Edited by GuiGomes - 10/6/11 at 2:52pm
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post #2 of 14
It's not stable just because there's no artifacts, you have to stress it with benchmarks to see if it's actually stable or not.
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Maybe it degraded? my old card did that and eventually it just totally broke..
    
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I don't know for sure.
I play Battlefield 3 and Shogun 2 all the time with that overclock (even now that i know there are some artifacts on AtiTool) but in the game i'm seeing no issues!

At least not that i can see for sure.

Before that i tested a lot of times in 3dmark11, i did like 100 runs in crysis benchmark without crashing or anything really weird, and lots of runs on unigine heaven and kombustor benchmarks.

The only place i can actually say i'm seeing artifacts is on ati tool software.

any clues?
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post #5 of 14
It could be that the ATI Tool doesn't like the memory speed. Different programs respond differently to core/shader/memory clocks. If it worked before, it could be that it's degrading minutely. Try taking the memory clocks back.

Otherwise I wouldn't worry about it too much if you can do 100 runs through Crysis and everything else looks OK. Just start saving for a backup card.

BTW, I'm sure between the last time you ran ATI Tool you've updated your drivers and (possibly) the ATI Tool version. If you have, it could be the specific driver set with the version of ATI Tool.
Edited by pengs - 10/6/11 at 6:00pm
post #6 of 14
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Yes last time i tried ATITool i was using 280.26 driver, and now i`m using the beta driver for battlefield 3 (285.38 or something like that) but i dont know about ati tool version.
I even tried installing the old driver to check it out, but still some artifacts. It wasnt a clean install though.

Now i'm running OCCT Gpu test and so far 0 errors were found, is this tool to be trusted?

GPU temps look fine if it keeps like this i'll make the full run without any problems.

about the "degrading" thing, would that possible if i keep getting the same results on benchmark softwares?

I mean, i get the same results today as before, a few weeks ago on unigine heaven, 3dmark 11, crysis bench, and a lot more softwares.

If it was degrading i was suposed to see some decreased performance, right?
Edited by GuiGomes - 10/6/11 at 6:11pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GuiGomes View Post
Yes last time i tried ATITool i was using 280.26 driver, and now i`m using the beta driver for battlefield 3 (285.38 or something like that)
I even tried installing the old driver to check it out, but still some artifacts. It wasnt a clean install though.

Now i'm running OCCT Gpu test and so far 0 errors were found, is this tool to be trusted?

GPU temps look fine if it keeps like this i'll make the full run without any problems.

about the "degrading" thing, would that possible if i keep getting the same results on benchmark softwares?

I mean, i get the same results today on unigine heaven, 3dmark 11, crysis bench, and a lot more softwares.

If it was degrading i was suposed to see some decreased performance, right?
The OCCT test is regularly used. ATI Tool is a bit old but if I remember it did stress the memory. If you can pass without any errors in OCCT you will be looking good.

From what I've seen degradation will cause anomalies and artifacts especially when it comes to memory. Processors will actually suffer a very small performance degradation with time or heat, otherwise components pretty much run at what they are set to until they die or become flaky almost as if their overhead operating capacity shortens. Voltage plays a major roll in it.
Edited by pengs - 10/6/11 at 6:20pm
post #8 of 14
mate, use more voltage, up it until it doesn't crash, to know if stable, game with a game like crysis 2/the witcher 2/ metro 2033 for a couple hours, it won't crash the driver if oc is stable, if you don't want to up voltage, clock down until you find maximum stable overclock, trust me, sometimes you won't find it unstable until 3-4 hours of gaming.
post #9 of 14
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well, i tested OCCT GPU and OCCT GPU Memory, both passed without errors!

I guess i'm OK, then.

Wasn't making any sense since i wasn't seeing artifacts in ANY other software.

Well, thanks for the support anyway if i find any other problem i'll come back!

Thanks a lot.

-> If anyone have any sugestion for my overclock let me know!


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mate, use more voltage, up it until it doesn't crash, to know if stable, game with a game like crysis 2/the witcher 2/ metro 2033 for a couple hours, it won't crash the driver if oc is stable, if you don't want to up voltage, clock down until you find maximum stable overclock, trust me, sometimes you won't find it unstable until 3-4 hours of gaming.
I played a lot more then 3 hours of Crysis and some other games like Shogun 2 and Battlefield 3 using these overclock settings and i never had any driver crash problem.

Like i said, i even let crysis run around 100 loops of benchmarks, and i completed the test with sucess, this problem only happen while using ATITool!
Edited by GuiGomes - 10/6/11 at 6:22pm
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OCCT GPU test is not a good test to be running for your card. Your card has overcurrent protection (OCP) which will throttle it's clocks down to 405Mhz when it detects thing that Nvidia has deemed "power viruses" such as Furmark, OCCT, and the like. Please note that this is happening whether you believe it or not, and even though it isn't not shown in real time monitoring programs such as MSI AB. For stability testing I like Ungine Heaven for about 45 minutes, and multiple hours of gaming on the most stressful games you own. Past that, many like 3DMark11 but I don't think it's as stressful as Unigine. You may also consider folding as a good stability test as it can and will stress your card like nothing else, check out the essential folding threads in my signature for more information.
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