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Hi all,

I'm new here. Actually stumbled across the site by chance this evening and was wondering if anyone could help me out a tiny bit.

I'm looking to buy a GTX 580 to use with my new build:

Asus P8Z68-V Pro
i7 2600k @ 4.4Ghz
8GB ram @ 1600Mhz
Corsair 1050W PSU
Azza Hurrican 2000 case

The problem I'm having is trying to work out which GPU exhaust system works best in the Azza. I have found topics talking about other cases e.g. Haf X, but not the Azza case.

Here is a picture of my current setup:



I'm ignoring price of the card for now.
My gaming resolution will be 1920x1080 and this will not change for the forseeable future.
I may want to SLi, but again not for at least 18-24 months.

Now in terms of the cards, I'm considering all card designs, but I cant workout if a card like the MSI GTX 580 Frozr II will heat up my case considerably. All the reviews seem to conduct tests on a bench, which makes me think that in a case the non-reference cooler cards will not actually cool as well as the manufacturers claim.

I've also tried a stock reference GTX580 in my current setup, idle temperatures were about 30-35 degrees, and load temp max hit 76 degrees. The CPU has never gone about 55 degrees.

I'm quite open to ideas and inputs and am willing to also consider other cards if anyone has any suggestions, my main concern really is the temperature and if the card can hold it's own for a few years going forward. To give you an idea of how long this build has been in the making, my previous setup was a Pentium 4 @ 3Ghz with a 6800GT (AGP) card.

Many thanks for taking the time to read
post #2 of 9
All those arrows are pretty useless to us without CFMs too.

As for GPU cooling, put a fan inside he case blowing from where an intake's cool air is and directing that directly to the GPU fan's intake.

Almost a necessity for overclocked, multi-card systems
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If no SLI, then why the overkill PSU??

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Is this a hypothetical thing to find which type of card will work best? I don't see a mention of the actual card you have.

For a non-ref cooler like the TFII, get rid of the bottom intake fan, all that is doing is creating a dead zone by the GPU. From there, the natural rising of the heat will direct it out the top but you need fresh air from the front to supply it not be re-directed upwards with another fan in between. Most of those aftermarket coolers blow TOWARDS the GPU, not away, so the heat will rise instantly.

For a reference style cooler, intake intake intake. Put as much as you can get away with as intake, preferably cards with high static pressure. Let the GPU be the only exhaust. I ran tri-sli in an 800D with only 5 intake fans using high pressure low CFM fans, and kept the hottest card below 75*C even with a heavy overclock.
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Hi all, really appreciate you've taken the time to reply. To answer some of the questions so far:

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Originally Posted by billbartuska View Post
All those arrows are pretty useless to us without CFMs too.

As for GPU cooling, put a fan inside he case blowing from where an intake's cool air is and directing that directly to the GPU fan's intake.
Unfortunately I've not got anre specs regarding the CFM of the fans. I cannot find anything online about them either. I would have included them otherwise.

But I already have implemented your suggetion about putting an intake fan directing airflow onto the GPU's intake fan (the fan closest to the PSU).

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Originally Posted by Coach Mcguirk View Post
If no SLI, then why the overkill PSU??
I actually bought the larger PSU for two reasons, primarily because it was on special offer when I was piecing together the different parts. Secondly, because while I do not intend to SLi right now, I want the option available in the future as I will likely upgrade the graphics card first and then look at a completely new build at a later date.

@Scorpion49: Currently I am using my motherboards iGPU. I borrowed a generic GTX580 to get an idea of the performance level with the games I am playing and in my system. The stock cooler seemed adequate, never exceeding 76 degrees.

But then I thought if I bought a non-reference card I would potentially also have further overclock headroom on the card, but I was unsure if expelling the air into the case will cause unforseen problems given my setup.

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Originally Posted by Scorpion49 View Post
For a non-ref cooler like the TFII, get rid of the bottom intake fan, all that is doing is creating a dead zone by the GPU. From there, the natural rising of the heat will direct it out the top but you need fresh air from the front to supply it not be re-directed upwards with another fan in between. Most of those aftermarket coolers blow TOWARDS the GPU, not away, so the heat will rise instantly.
From what you are saying here, it would seem I'm better off removing that bottom fan completely, or possibly even putting it towards the front of the case to act as a further intake fan bringing more cool air into the case.
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Originally Posted by 5nak3 View Post
@Scorpion49: Currently I am using my motherboards iGPU. I borrowed a generic GTX580 to get an idea of the performance level with the games I am playing and in my system. The stock cooler seemed adequate, never exceeding 76 degrees.

But then I thought if I bought a non-reference card I would potentially also have further overclock headroom on the card, but I was unsure if expelling the air into the case will cause unforseen problems given my setup.

From what you are saying here, it would seem I'm better off removing that bottom fan completely, or possibly even putting it towards the front of the case to act as a further intake fan bringing more cool air into the case.
Yeah it will work fine, you have plenty of airflow either way, you just don't want that bottom fan directing the cool air away from the GPU because it would defeat the whole purpose of it.
post #7 of 9
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Hi Scorpion49,

Thanks for the reply. I'm going to be ordering my card this weekend, if I can get one of the after market coolers at the same price as a stock cooler I'll go for one of those and fiddle with my fan setup.

I noticed you have the link to the Asus Direct CU owners club in your sig as well as mention of Asus cards in SLi, how is the cooling on those as SLi? They are triple slot cards if I'm not mistaken.
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Originally Posted by 5nak3 View Post
Hi Scorpion49,

Thanks for the reply. I'm going to be ordering my card this weekend, if I can get one of the after market coolers at the same price as a stock cooler I'll go for one of those and fiddle with my fan setup.

I noticed you have the link to the Asus Direct CU owners club in your sig as well as mention of Asus cards in SLi, how is the cooling on those as SLi? They are triple slot cards if I'm not mistaken.
Cooling is excellent. I've made a custom fan profile for them that ramps up to 60% at 60*C and 80% at 80*C mainly for overclocking, I see temps of about 75*C at 1025mhz/1.240v. For gaming I run them at 950mhz/1.125v and they don't get above 65*C with the stock fan profile. I have one slot of space in between them, and the HAF X has a 200mm fan blowing directly at them so it directs all the hot air out through the top.
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Originally Posted by Scorpion49 View Post
Cooling is excellent. I've made a custom fan profile for them that ramps up to 60% at 60*C and 80% at 80*C mainly for overclocking, I see temps of about 75*C at 1025mhz/1.240v. For gaming I run them at 950mhz/1.125v and they don't get above 65*C with the stock fan profile. I have one slot of space in between them, and the HAF X has a 200mm fan blowing directly at them so it directs all the hot air out through the top.
good to have all this info, I'll try to get either the Frozr II or the Direct CU II.

As they are they seemingly are the two cheaper aftermarket versions which have received good reviews. Failing that I'll try and get one of the OC'ed reference cooler cards.
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