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And some people don't need lots of storage, not many people run home SQL servers and only have a few games.
As for the limited irritability, please stop spreading that myth, you'd need to write constantly for 5-6 years to have any chance of ruining the drive from that, most (Not all though) HDDs die before then.
You judge people wrong - most people have hoardes of stuff. 1TB doesn't cut it for a majority of users, especially with movies and such. No SSD approaches 1TB - and a 120GB drive would be pretty small, for most users these days, unless someone really put effort into a spartan system and didn't have any media. Even the 250GB drive in my netbook is packed, and that is without "media" - just essentials.

There is no myth - an SSD is clobbered after 10,000 write cycles - therefore many applications can push it over the edge quickly. Windows can probably easily clobber it inside of a few months, just from VM. SQL is common enough these days - but games, talk about walloping a drive, because many games are extremely tough on drives, especially with the need for VM hits.

Until they migrate from NAND Flash, which is write and capacity limited - SSD will never be the achiever that most people will be able to use in a stable manner as a main storage drive.
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when you can buy a 250GB for around $200 I will get one, til that day I dont see myself getting one anytime soon. Right now the nice intel 510 series I want is $570, that's way out of my budget, I sold one to a guy and it was amazing. but I'd rather buy a better GPU or CPU, or LCD, the list goes on for that money that it costs to buy one.

I am a cheapskate, and the tech is still maturing and has a long way to go IMHO, its not as plug and play as a mechanical drive is, you have to worry about TRIM, and stuff, when that stuff gets sorted, and they start lasting longer with read/writes and become faster and more reliable, and dont require any setting up (maybe with windows 8 this might change, who knows?) I will get one. but I dont see this happening for a couple of years. maybe sometime by the end of next year?

I agree that the speed increase is amazing, but it doesnt make my games run at any higher FPS yet, or make the detail in my games any better. thats what I use my PC most for. to me its not worth it right now to just have faster load times in windows and shutdown times, I want to be able to install all my games and applications on it. so everything runs faster, not just the OS.
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I agree that the speed increase is amazing, but it doesnt make my games run at any higher FPS yet, or make the detail in my games any better. thats what I use my PC most for. to me its not worth it right now to just have faster load times in windows and shutdown times, I want to be able to install all my games and applications on it. so everything runs faster, not just the OS.
That depends, games like Fallout NV have high-res texture packs that completely saturate a mechanical drive. You will see a framerate increase with an SSD because the game is frequently waiting on the HDD. I'm running the MNC medium texture pack with 4x SSAA and like I said in my previous post my hard drive is so bogged down there are times I'm waiting for the textures to load or they don't load at all. When your pushing the image quality that far a hard drive just doesn't cut it anymore.
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I'll never go back to a platter drive.

One thing I noticed which was incredibly impressive is that on my 3 SSD in RAID0 rig I have an outlook pst file which has emails from almost the last 10 years on it. Before, when using the search function it would take a minute or so to read the index while searching (on a spinpoint f3). Now it's nearly instantaneous. Its not frequent that searching a 7GB outlook file is needed, but that was one of the more impressive improvements I noticed immediately upon using it.
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You judge people wrong - most people have hoardes of stuff. 1TB doesn't cut it for a majority of users, especially with movies and such. No SSD approaches 1TB - and a 120GB drive would be pretty small, for most users these days, unless someone really put effort into a spartan system and didn't have any media. Even the 250GB drive in my netbook is packed, and that is without "media" - just essentials.

There is no myth - an SSD is clobbered after 10,000 write cycles - therefore many applications can push it over the edge quickly. Windows can probably easily clobber it inside of a few months, just from VM. SQL is common enough these days - but games, talk about walloping a drive, because many games are extremely tough on drives, especially with the need for VM hits.

Until they migrate from NAND Flash, which is write and capacity limited - SSD will never be the achiever that most people will be able to use in a stable manner as a main storage drive.
Assuming this is true, how much usage is that in real life?
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I'll never go back to a platter drive.

One thing I noticed which was incredibly impressive is that on my 3 SSD in RAID0 rig I have an outlook pst file which has emails from almost the last 10 years on it. Before, when using the search function it would take a minute or so to read the index while searching (on a spinpoint f3). Now it's nearly instantaneous. Its not frequent that searching a 7GB outlook file is needed, but that was one of the more impressive improvements I noticed immediately upon using it.
3 SSD RAID0? I'm jealous. Out of curiosity what do you do that requires that much speed?
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3 SSD RAID0? I'm jealous. Out of curiosity what do you do that requires that much speed?
Nothing, the drives were on a really nice sale and one was an open box item at microcenter. I think most new SSDs are about the same performance as these 3 in RAID.

Either way, I do audio and video manipulation as a hobby while host my business files, and use the whole rig as a server for my business and all my home media (through platter based storage but just having the OS on the SSDs as well as all the programs is amazing)
http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0351760 These are the drives and I got them slightly lower than that price averaged out because one was open box.
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nothing inspires confidence more then an utterly biased tom's article i mean he didnt even try to make a neutral face lol. For example given that i leave my pc and all my commonly used programs on for weeks at a time i couldn't care less about how fast windows boots.
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I like how everyone thinks they know how someone else's money is better spent. Umm... yeah.

Best upgrade ever: 30" 25x16 monitor. Hands down. Monitor upgrades are always the most important. Video card would be second for me. I don't mind slower app loading, I do want the best gfx that makes sense. Then I'd probably put keyboard... having the keyboard that suits you best is a wonderful thing... And honestly, I'd rather make sure I have the mouse I want. Then somewhere after the processor and sound system would I put a SSD upgrade. I rarely play 3 games at the same time while I'm folding and running spyware and defragging software at the same time. Maybe it'll happen.

And raided SSD's for storage? lol. Unless you're into high volumes of data, that's the most worthless thing I've ever heard.

And while a SSD upgrade isn't insignificant, I'm not double dosing on ritalin trying to keep focused on doing something that I'd otherwise not be able to handle without uber load times...

SSD tech is still improving at a fast pace... I think I'll hold off a bit and see what's coming up the upgrade chain before mass consumer spending season hits...
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not sure if you're talking about what I posted with regards to RAID SSDs but they're just for important encrypted data, OS and programs. I have 8tb of other storage for media and other data
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