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lachen.gif @ all these n00bs who have never experienced SSDs but feel they need to comment on them.

Even my 1.8ghz C2D laptop benefitted immensely from a slow SSD.

Going from 3.3ghz to 5ghz didn't give me as much improvement.


You won't know you need an SSD until you use one for a few minutes.
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You won't know you need an SSD until you use one for a few minutes.
This.


I put one in my dads work laptop (c2d laptop). MASSIVE improvement.

I honestly could not build a new pc without an SSD. A HDD as a primary drive would make me insane especially for regular use (everything but gaming pretty much).
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@ all these n00bs who have never experienced SSDs but feel they need to comment on them.

Even my 1.8ghz C2D laptop benefitted immensely from a slow SSD.

Going from 3.3ghz to 5ghz didn't give me as much improvement.


You won't know you need an SSD until you use one for a few minutes.
are you guys constantly reinstalling the same game and running anti-virus over and over?

the ssd is a nice upgrade, but the ssd kool-aid is a bit much.
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@ all these n00bs who have never experienced SSDs but feel they need to comment on them.
I was thinking the same thing.

If you can appreciate the difference after upgrading to a mechanical keyboard, then Id bet that you would appreciate the difference after upgrading to an ssd. No need to knock it if you havent tried it.

We can play games using the bare minimum required video card, but we can sure feel the difference when we upgrade. Onboard sound is fine, but we can hear the difference after we upgrade as well. I was fine with my old crt monitor, but I love having upgraded to an lcd. These upgrades are all luxuries that help improve our computing experience.
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Unless you've got serious cash, the best thing you can do is get a small ssd for the OS & critical programs, and then get a massive hard drive for everything. For me, I used a a-data 64 GB ssd in combination with 2 1 TB samsung spinpoint f3's.
It made a drastic improvement. Windows load times by themselves are immeasurably quicker, however, for a few other things, I saw little improvement between it and my velociraptor. All in all, I'm happy with an ssd, it has served me well and keeps my desktop going and lightning quick.
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Was just testing my new 7k1000.D and they are at 150mbs on my old motherboard lga 775 motherboard. When i upgrade my new motherboard next week speeds will be even faster.

So? That's 150MB/s peak sequential..... which is nearly worthless for an OS drive. 90% of disk access is random or small files.

Your HDD can do only 0.5-2MB/s random.... a SSD can do 40-90MB/s.

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Hard Drives are a limitation on my stock Core 2 Duo.

Hell, they've been a limitation to me since my Athlon XP 2Ghz single core...
This is one reason that Intel decided to invest in SSDs. Storage is becoming a CPU bottleneck.
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For the gamer, ssd is overrated. It's better to spend on a better gpu or cooler.

Sure, I moved to an SSD. While not an elite one by today's standard, real world usage would feel the same as any other sata 3 ssd.

Yeah things are snappier, but games play the same.
While true, you should see the difference between certain games such as Oblivion/Fallout with texture mods and even The Sims 3, all 3 load up stuff like it's no tomorrow and you can run into a HDD bottleneck pretty fast. (Especially with sims, since its loading so many textures and objects from the HDD at once)

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I have a SSD...an OCZ Vertex 2 and it is the most pointless piece of hardware I own. It means fast boot times...but that is it. As far as this "snappiness" goes that people mention...that is just another way to say there is no measureable performance gain and that it just feels quicker. If it can't be timed or measured then the feeling is just imagined.

I have tried putting several different applications on the SSD and none have had any benefit over being on my HDD raid 0. Some will Start up faster, but operation and in games the load times will be pretty much the same as far as I can tell.

The fast boot time is nice...but I ussually do that once a day...at most three or four times if I am installing a driver or something. It was nice for finding a max OC on my new GPU I guess, but normal ussuage it doesn't matter. and when I say fast boot times I mean a good 5-7 seconds faster than a HDD. Steam is the only thing lagging my start up. However, 5-7 seconds isn't much either. I have it now so I will use it...but I if it died I sure would not get another one.
You seriously must be loading nothing compared to me, I was using a friends righw ith an SSD and it was a lot faster compared to my home rig, which feels slower than the Pentium MMX 200 I've got in the closet, now.

And the difference can be seen quite a bit, I've noticed the difference between having my OS and programs/documents on different drives and having them on the same drive, I got used to it and figured it doesn't make much difference.

Boy was I wrong.

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I'm surprised no-one mentioned RAID0 for mechanical drives. I have 4 WD Caviar blacks in RAID0 and get crazy speeds. My SSD in my laptop is nice and snappy, but since it's SATAII my RAID0 array gets way faster write/read speeds. My 500MB/s write is very nice. My SSD can't touch that. Mind you my other rig just has an HDD and I am considering getting an SSD for that. My main rig needs the storage and speed, so RAID0 wins out. Plus I have a second raid array in RAID5 that handles the important data.
Works like a champ. Transferred 320GB recently from my RAID0 to RAID5 and it took only about 10minutes. If that's not awesome I don't know what is.
Sustained means crap all for OS use, RAID is faster in sustained but that's it, latency is what matters for OS use and you'd need a 30k RPM drive to come close to SSD numbers, that said, I would prefer to do RAID and SSD so I can follow the memory hierarchy (Speed vs Size) by having either an SSD or two in RAID0 (~120GB total, for OS, programs and a few games that benefit from it), then a VR 450GB or so for the rest of my games, and RAID0 Spinpoint F3 1TBs/Those new 1TB platter Hitachi drives for documents, and RAID1 or maybe even RAID5 Spinpoint F4 2TBs for backing my stuff up.

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I use windows on mechanical drives. No issues yet. Extremely quick.
Tell me how the hell you optimized Windows to make it load decently on a mechanical drive, its slow as hell compared to an SSD for me.

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Umm the sequential write/read speeds that you're talking about, are worthless. The REAL benefit of SSDs are the near instant access times, and four or ten mechanical drives in RAID0 can't and won't ever come close to one SSD in this most important aspect, BY FAR.
They're not completely worthless, just for OS use.

For example, I'd benefit greatly from faster sustained use simply for my backups (Which consists of a lot of very large and small files)

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are you guys constantly reinstalling the same game and running anti-virus over and over?

the ssd is a nice upgrade, but the ssd kool-aid is a bit much.
No, but the lag I get in Firefox miraculously disappears, all of my programs load faster and run a bit better (Great example is when I'm converting music tracks from FLAC to say, Ogg, for my phone, if I play music while doing it, it slows down because the HDD is thrashing, an SSD would alleviate that.) and my computer feels more responsive overall.

That said, I need to get my case, motherboard and cooling sorted before I go SSD, which so far looks like it might come with a new FX-8150 or 2600k.
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i dont want an ssd i love my 3TB drive
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TO me, an SSD is too fast, its like taking a jet to the grocery store. My current "ferrari" (dual Vrapts) is already fast enough so i dont need to upgrade. Yes ive used an SSD before, and no it didnt do anything other than degrade after i wrote to it
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I have no need for SSD's. I'll keep my WD Black's.
    
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