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slower as in compile time?
Seems like a worthwhile compromise to me.

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I hear the Microsoft compiler is the cats meow though.
I'm guessing that doesn't work for linux/osX...
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post #142 of 401
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No, Intel is not forthcoming about it, and that is what landed them in court. Between that and the OEM price fixing.
The discriminatory compiler case ended with Intel only having to say their compiler is discriminatory before that you had to know the Compiler to figure out it wasn't exactly fair to other CPUs

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slower as in compile time?
Seems like a worthwhile compromise to me.
It is slower in general and each release can be slower or faster than the previous version this instability is generally why it isn't used in corporate/small business applications like Cinema4D

Each Intel Compiler version will increase the speed and power of Intel CPUs while AMD CPUs stay in Purgatory
Edited by Seronx - 10/7/11 at 5:50pm
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thats not true , all it does is measure the cpu's performance .. doesnt mater what cpu it is .
It does, because CPUs, shock horror, get the same stuff done in different ways, some of which are faster than others? And the ICC does go by CPUID and not by its flags, because Intel like to gimp AMD CPUs.
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slower as in compile time?
Seems like a worthwhile compromise to me.
No, it generates less optimized binarys. I have no idea on the compile time. I imagine that the performance difference in the binary may be more or less tied to the type of instructions in use. GCC is very brand agnostic and it will allow you to compile multiple code paths IIRC. I use it in a very novice way so it could be far more capable then I am aware of.

What interesting is that benchmarks built with gcc vrs Intel compiler, generate very different results.

Really though, google (agner, Intel Compiler" and see for yourself.

IIRC ARS technica did a article about spoofing cpuid on a via nano a few years back, the results were shocking !!!
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The 12th looks very likely.
really? September 19th was very likely? September 26th was very likely? October 12th is very likely?
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really? September 19th was very likely? September 26th was very likely? October 12th is very likely?
Well unfortunately September 19th wasn't a Wednesday and it didn't have press kits out and boxes in stores yet
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IIRC ARS technica did a article about spoofing cpuid on a via nano a few years back, the results were shocking !!!
Yep, 47.5% increase in PCMark05 iirc by changing it to GenuineIntel from CentuarHauls, see, Intel's going to fall back on the "We didn't know you'd have a CPU that supports feature x!" argument whenever someone asks, yet if they didn't use CPUIDs to work it out and instead just went by the flags...
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I will be picking up a "special Edition".

@ $300-320, this will sway me to purchase the 8150, I wont have to bother with another cooler till I want total WC. YAY!.

It sucks everything else is locked.

Oh, and I told you so! <---Not directed at anybody, just wanted to say it to the internet.
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Are there any negatives to cpuid spoofing? From what i'm hearing it makes a bigger difference than overclocking in some cases...
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Are there any negatives to cpuid spoofing? From what i'm hearing it makes a bigger difference than overclocking in some cases...
Not really, even ICC compiled apps still check flags, but if a genuineintel cpuid is not found it skips this process and reverts to older and substantially worse instructions. There are a number of apps capable of doing this. I personally do it on my rig, its been wonderful !
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