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Thanks for all the slides!

btw - what presentation are these from?

I haven't read this thread yet.
there was a thread in the rumor section yesterday that had a link to a chinese website that had two pages of these slides, they are the press deck slides from AMD with a few changes from the ones leaked last week.
    
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AMD Launch of FX CPUs we some how missed it
You serious? I haven't really read much on OCN today.
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there was a thread in the rumor section yesterday that had a link to a chinese website that had two pages of these slides, they are the press deck slides from AMD with a few changes from the ones leaked last week.
ahh cool, I'm afraid to start reading this thread if it's the usual ..... nonsense.
Edited by 2010rig - 10/7/11 at 7:29pm
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Well, running what software with which workload ? 70% of what metric. If the clock can make it meet the speed, then what say you ?

We ultimately care about IPS. Because that is the ultimate measure of work performed.
What makes IPS better than IPC? Performance is usually measured with IPC.
If BD needs to be clocked at 6Ghz to match a stock 2500K,then it is unacceptable regardless if the clock can fill the possible speed gap.
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What makes IPS better than IPC? Performance is usually measured with IPC.
If BD needs to be clocked at 6Ghz to match a stock 2500K,then it is unacceptable regardless if the clock can fill the possible speed gap.
IPS

is
IPC x Clock Speed / Latency = Actual Performance
(This is simplified because there is more to it over this)
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SuperPi is a given how x87 works on AMD CPUs
Ops per Cycle is the same as Phenoms while having op fusion allowing for ALU+AGU ops to occur(Stars[+)((Llano)) and Bulldozer are the only things that can do op fusion for AMD CPUs)
This is supposedly clocked at 4.2GHz. A 3.3GHz Phenom II scores the same in single-thread.
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The way you should see it

AMD FX 4-core => AMD PhII X4
AMD FX 6-core => AMD PhII X6
AMD FX 8-core => AMD PhII X8

A four-core Bulldozer is more comparable to a four-core processor
Why? All these leaks point to a lower IPC being corrected with higher clock speeds.

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Again it's Cinebench.... and if it was a 2c/4t it would be getting scaling of 2.1x
Why?
It may be more comparable to a quad-core than a dual-core, 3.3x is still quite a bit away from the 3.9x I usually see with a quad-core.
Seeing it as a 2C/4T-processor makes it look quite a bit better than saying the FX41xx is a true quadcore, because according to these leaks, FX4100 is only 30% faster than a stock Q6600 @ 2.4GHz, which is ridiculously bad.
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You will see those numbers for Cinebench

The FX-8150 show us a score a Phenom II X8 would get so, I think chew* and other people should just stop
What is the problem with Cinebench? It scales well with cores, clock speed and architecture. A Phenom II X6 scores better than an i5-2500k, but

*chew is one of the few people who have had access to these chips and are reputable sources, why shouldn't we trust them?
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ips = real world performance when running applications .. because not all applications can use the total cappacity of any cpu


ipc = maximum theoratical throughput
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there a thread at XS's about chew* having fun,Starcraft 2 at 7GHz stable with a FX-8150
    
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link to that thread or post please
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link to that thread or post please
Brian (chew) has a little fun..Starcraft 2 at over 7GHz stable!
    
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This is supposedly clocked at 4.2GHz. A 3.3GHz Phenom II scores the same in single-thread.
Don't take results from Asia at face value

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Why? All these leaks point to a lower IPC being corrected with higher clock speeds.
Um, IPC isn't the statistic you should be using Operations per Cycle has lowered but that could easily be remedied by using FMA instructions

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What is the problem with Cinebench? It scales well with cores, clock speed and architecture. A Phenom II X6 scores better than an i5-2500k, but
Just don't take Cinebench as fact

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*chew is one of the few people who have had access to these chips and are reputable sources, why shouldn't we trust them?
Don't take how he explains how Bulldozer works as fact
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