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im running everything at 1920x1080

i would love to crossfire, because it would be alot cheaper for me, but im not sure how much my 1gb vram would hold me back.

also, would my PSU run a single 3gb 580?
There isn't a whole lot of immediate need for more than a gigabyte of VRAM at your resolution, and by CFing your current card you would be able to hold out till there are better cards available. If you really just want to go overkill rather than need to go overkill (say if you had triple monitors or a 1600p screen) then you will be MUCH better off by getting a cheap upgrade now, and going big at the beginning of the next wave of GPUs. This is really much more sensible and effective than what you are considering. I'm a huge fan of VRAM and no fan of the current AMD GPUs, so if it weren't the wrong choice I'd love to tell you to go 3Gb 580 but in this case when you can get another one of your cards for so cheap just doing that is the much better choice.
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There isn't a whole lot of immediate need for more than a gigabyte of VRAM at your resolution, and by CFing your current card you would be able to hold out till there are better cards available. If you really just want to go overkill rather than need to go overkill (say if you had triple monitors or a 1600p screen) then you will be MUCH better off by getting a cheap upgrade now, and going big at the beginning of the next wave of GPUs. This is really much more sensible and effective than what you are considering. I'm a huge fan of VRAM and no fan of the current AMD GPUs, so if it weren't the wrong choice I'd love to tell you to go 3Gb 580 but in this case when you can get another one of your cards for so cheap just doing that is the much better choice.
this. at this resolution, unless ur planning to go higher, there really is no reason to spend an extra 450$ just to say you got a 3gb card.
even when games WILL require over 1gb, you will still be able to see great performance out of your 6870's.
and like juano said, you can always decide 6 months from now when the new line-up is out to upgrade to the newer cards. that's also a con for the 580 3gb (was considering it too up till a month or so ago) - it doesn't make that much sense to spend top dollar for a a card that's about to be dethroned..

check the anandtech benches for 6870 cf to make sure it's enough juice for you - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/290?vs=301
i think that's PLENTY for current-gen games
post #13 of 25
Another vote for going Crossfire.

With a single monitor, you have no need for more than 1GB of VRAM anyway. Regardless of what people say about it....its more than enough. My single 580 with 1.5GB maxes out every game I throw at it. My 470 did the same with the exception of Metro2033. And my 4890 before that also did very well (minus DX11 obviously).

There's far too much hype over more VRAM these days. You need a faster GPU core, not more VRAM. Games today will generally use a lot of VRAM, yes that's correct. However they'll only use however much you HAVE available. If you've got a 2GB card, some games will use close to 2GB. But that doesn't mean its going to be any smoother than a 1GB card with the same core on it.
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Go with the standard 1.5gb version or crossfire your 6870s.
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New card.

BF3 on medium/high mix @ 1080p easily uses 1.2+ gigs for me and I've seen 1.4+ for others.

If you want to play future games without a VRAM bottleneck, then get the 3 Gb model. I am currently going to upgrade to a 3 Gb 580 too, the 1.25 gb Vram is too low.
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New card.

BF3 on medium/high mix @ 1080p easily uses 1.2+ gigs for me and I've seen 1.4+ for others.

If you want to play future games without a VRAM bottleneck, then get the 3 Gb model. I am currently going to upgrade to a 3 Gb 580 too, the 1.25 gb Vram is too low.
Again, this goes with exactly what I said earlier. You're seeing 1.2GB of VRAM usage in BF3 because you HAVE that much VRAM available. Doesn't mean the game NEEDS that much to run smoothly maxed out. You've seen 1.4GB+ with others? And I'll bet that they had 1.5-2GB cards too. Does that make the game any more playable for them than it is for you? Didn't think so.
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If it uses more VRAM because you "have" more VRAM then what is it changing gamewise? My car doesn't use more gas because it has a full tank instead of a 1/2tank. Something has to be affected.
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If it uses more VRAM because you "have" more VRAM then what is it changing gamewise? My car doesn't use more gas because it has a full tank instead of a 1/2tank. Something has to be affected.
Your car could use more gas if it has more cylinders though. It might have the same horsepower as a 4 cyl car, but those 8 cylinders will certainly use more gas.

It has nothing to do with how much VRAM a graphics card has. If you've got enough to push your resolution (which 1GB and up is enough for 1080p), then it comes down to how much "horsepower" your GPU has on it. Increase the amount of "horsepower" (by going SLI / Crossfire), and you'll increase your performance VRAM or not.

I think I'm getting off track here somewhere with the car references though.....
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post #19 of 25
Its the "BF3 syndrome". A lot of folks are freaking out and deciding they need more vram for single monitor/screen setups. Its like the psu misconception: "I'm sli'ing two 460s, do I need a 1kw psu?!?!?!?"
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I understand more GPU horsepower is what is going to drive your game better, but why does it use more VRAM just because you have it? just seems odd it wouldn't affect your game somehow.

i really just want to know for myself(others too i guess) not just playing devils advocate
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