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Poll Results: Which will run the best?

Poll expired: Dec 6, 2011  
  • 0% (0)
    Celeron 2.93ghz 533fsb 256kb NO HT
  • 16% (7)
    Pentium 4 mobile 2.8ghz 533fsb 1m HT
  • 83% (35)
    Pentium 4c 2.8ghz 800fsb 512kb HT
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post #11 of 29
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Originally Posted by corky dorkelson View Post
Going to test it out. From what I have read, later 478 chipsets like the one I have (Via 890?) will support the mobile pentium 4 chips.
I guess if you are just cobbling this together for the sake of it, it doesnt matter too much. Go ahead and try it. Why not try the other cpu as well, and then see which is the quickest between the two?
     
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post #12 of 29
I would say choice 3, nice balance of speed,cache, fsb and also HT.

However for low power purposes I would say the Celeron as lower amounts of cache equal lower heat in some cases.
    
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post #13 of 29
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Originally Posted by corky dorkelson View Post
More of an experiment than anything, just cobbled some parts together and decided to play around with them.
In that case, the answer is "D: All of the above". Let's see some comparative benchies!
    
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post #14 of 29
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In that case, the answer is "D: All of the above". Let's see some comparative benchies!
Agreed, would like to see benchs on those but I have to agree with #3
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post #15 of 29
If it helps, I've tried the following three CPUs...

Intel Celeron D 2.8GHz (Prescott, 256k cache, 533MHz FSB)
Intel Pentium 4 2.8GHz (Prescott, 1M cache, 533MHz FSB)
Intel Pentium 4 2.8GHz (Northwood, 512k cache, 800MHz FSB, Hyper-threading)

I do not have numbers, but the third felt the smoothest (I moved from the second to the third). The first two are a little different from what you have (clock speed of the first and no Hyper-threading of the second), but it's very similar.

The Celeron shouldn't even be considered unless it's performance is already overkill and you want to conserve heat/power.

Of the latter two, as I said, I'd go with the third. At the same clock speed, I'd take the Northwood (generally better performance and less power/heat), and it has a higher FSB as well.
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However for low power purposes I would say the Celeron as lower amounts of cache equal lower heat in some cases.
It's not worth it for the performance drop.
post #16 of 29
What are the CPU models? The mobile architecture was different from the desktop one at the time.
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post #17 of 29
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What are the CPU models? The mobile architecture was different from the desktop one at the time.
Not necessarily. The Pentium M, which is likely what you are thinking of, was different, yes, but the Pentium 4 M was pretty much the same as the desktop Pentium 4 (architecturally, things like FSB, cache, and/or clock speed may have differed). I don't think there was a Pentium M at 2.8GHz, nor with Hyper-threading, so it sounds like a Pentium 4 M. If that's a Pentium M at 2.8GHz, then it'd be the definitive choice, but I'm doubting that.
post #18 of 29
#3, depends on if it's Prescott or Northwood.
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post #19 of 29
The third one is a Northwood, as it has 512k of cache. The Prescott had 1M of cache, or in the case of it's die shrink (Cedar Mill), 2M of cache.
post #20 of 29
Awww, late to the party.
Indeed, #3 is the one you'd want. As it was said previously, first of all, say bye-bye to the Celeron.
Regarding the mobile variant, it can't be P4-M, since this line didn't have any 2.8GHz CPUs and all of them ran at FSB400. This is the model that's being discussed.
While the mobile variant has more cache than the desktop one, the FSB would affect performance quite a bit. Prescott's overkill pipeline would further reduce the performance: a 3.0GHz FSB800 Pressie clocked at 3.7GHz can barely catch up to a 3.4GHz FSB800 Northwood at stock (both desktop PGA478). Thus, the 2.8GHz/FSB800/512KB desktop P4 is the way to go.
     
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