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Righteo,

so my TFIII 6950 is brand new, and awesome.

Last time I was gaming had it overclocked to 930/1430 with only a change to core volts up to 1.19v. Custom fan profile, nice and quiet, temps in gaming under 70 degrees, temps in Furmark under 76 albeit a little louder.

So MSI Afterburner had 2 profiles enabled:

2D: Stock 850/1250 @1.15v
3D: OC 930/1430 @1.19v

GTAIV maxed 1080p running fine with Catalyst forced MLAA x2.
Crysis Warhead 1080p Gamer settings plus 4x AA ingame running smooth

No issues, Afterburner would upclock and overvolt then down clock and revert voltage as required when entering and exiting games.

Today however, it is trying to overclock the cards to 930/1430 whilst UNDERVOLTING the card to 1.10v.

Subsequently 3D apps crash the AMD driver instantly and sometimes freeze my system in the process.

So I tried running games at stock clocks - Afterburner tries to undervolt at stock clocks, to the same crashing/freezing ends.

FRUSTRATED !!!

So I uninstalled and reinstalled, same deal. Uninstalled again and reinstalled 2.10 Stable Afterburner, but overvolting is disabled. That won't do. So uninstalled that and reinstalled 2.20 Beta 8 again. Same results.

I don't understand this. I will note that there is an option in Afterburner to set the default voltage range at either 1.10v or 1.15v.

I don't know why, but such is the case. Perhaps the card is trying to default back to an mistake in its BIOS?

I'm going to uninstall all VGA drivers, driversweep in safemode and reinstall everything now, but any ideas? Any similar experiences? Any help you can offer?
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did you touch your case ungrounded ... sounds like something just went bad in your card .... might be time for a RMA man .... that is no bweno .... i woudl do the software side stuff for sure but you should not have these problems ... only other thing i can think of ... MAKE sure you power and the card is seated right in the PCI-Express slot ....
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Maybe helpful?; "I've used MSI afterburner with my 6950, ...... You need to disable CCC. MSI afterburner and CCC don't play nice."
Edited by Eerazer - 10/7/11 at 7:20pm
    
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Originally Posted by willibj View Post
Righteo,

so my TFIII 6950 is brand new, and awesome.

Last time I was gaming had it overclocked to 930/1430 with only a change to core volts up to 1.19v. Custom fan profile, nice and quiet, temps in gaming under 70 degrees, temps in Furmark under 76 albeit a little louder.

So MSI Afterburner had 2 profiles enabled:

2D: Stock 850/1250 @1.15v
3D: OC 930/1430 @1.19v

GTAIV maxed 1080p running fine with Catalyst forced MLAA x2.
Crysis Warhead 1080p Gamer settings plus 4x AA ingame running smooth

No issues, Afterburner would upclock and overvolt then down clock and revert voltage as required when entering and exiting games.

Today however, it is trying to overclock the cards to 930/1430 whilst UNDERVOLTING the card to 1.10v.

Subsequently 3D apps crash the AMD driver instantly and sometimes freeze my system in the process.

So I tried running games at stock clocks - Afterburner tries to undervolt at stock clocks, to the same crashing/freezing ends.

FRUSTRATED !!!

So I uninstalled and reinstalled, same deal. Uninstalled again and reinstalled 2.10 Stable Afterburner, but overvolting is disabled. That won't do. So uninstalled that and reinstalled 2.20 Beta 8 again. Same results.

I don't understand this. I will note that there is an option in Afterburner to set the default voltage range at either 1.10v or 1.15v.

I don't know why, but such is the case. Perhaps the card is trying to default back to an mistake in its BIOS?

I'm going to uninstall all VGA drivers, driversweep in safemode and reinstall everything now, but any ideas? Any similar experiences? Any help you can offer?
When you overclock the core/memory, you have to set Power Setting +20% in CCC Overdrive to stabilize the OC. Now when you are using Afterburner will reset the PowerSetting to default +0%, as a result of this, the core/memory and voltage throttle down due to the power draw exceeds the set limit which is 0%.

So far there is no workaround, it's how the AMD drivers are coded and Afterburner just using it. It's a long known issue. Folks with watercooling get around this is by editing the voltage in BIOS and use CCC Overdrive to OC along with Afterburner as monitoring and video capturing.

So what you are experiencing is nothing unusual and there is nothing is wrong with the hardware. Its just how things are at the moment.
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@ Ken1649

+Rep: thanks for the clear, educated advice.

I don't want to disable CCC as I want access to the AA and AF override features for games like GTA IV, Mass Effect 2, Civilization V and TES Oblivion where MLAA is infinitely useful, and Oblivion where AF is also necessary.

Looks like I'll just have to run [Force Constant Voltage] in Afterburner when gaming. At least I can keep my overclock.

I've emailed MSI about this. Might email ATI too, though I'm less optimistic about their response.
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@ Ken1649

+Rep: thanks for the clear, educated advice.

I don't want to disable CCC as I want access to the AA and AF override features for games like GTA IV, Mass Effect 2, Civilization V and TES Oblivion where MLAA is infinitely useful, and Oblivion where AF is also necessary.

Looks like I'll just have to run [Force Constant Voltage] in Afterburner when gaming. At least I can keep my overclock.

I've emailed MSI about this. Might email ATI too, though I'm less optimistic about their response.
You know, you don't have to use afterburner to overclock the card.
    
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^ Like i said earlier, as luck would have it, ATi released new drivers yesterday which should be perfect for your needs, and you wont need afterburner to overclock the 2d /3d speeds:

    
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You know, you don't have to use afterburner to overclock the card.
I've set up a 2D and 3D profile with constant voltage forced, so it's good enough for now.

I can't use CCC as the limit is 900/1325 on 6950's (your image shows the 6970 CCC), as I can far exceed CCC limitations with the MSI TFIII and I don't want to flash anything or mess around with bios editing etc.

I've not bothered with Trixx because it's ugly and I dare so will suffer the same software incompatibility issue that Afterburner suffers now.

I love Afterburner for its user control of voltages, fans, multiple profiles etc, and I'm really familiar with it.

I've not used any other program before, do you have any other suggestions?
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Hmm... RivaTuner, ATi Tool, EVGA Precision, Powerstrip, ASUS SmartDoctor

I used to use EVGA's program but I recently switched to Afterburner, however I don't overclock my cards, I just like the Temp monitoring system - but that's because of Rivatuner I suppose, both of those programs use it.

Never tried ASUS SmartDoctor though, might be worth a look.
Edited by Eerazer - 10/8/11 at 7:47pm
    
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