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I don't really mind console ports. Many have been done right. For example my favorite game ever is a console port (Dead Space 2) and it looks fantastic on the PC and runs fantastic too. I'm looking forward to Metro Last Light however, that game looks like a good PC title that will push everyone's hardware.
Then it's not a console "port." It's a multiplatform game designed with different hardware limitations in mind. I agree though, I absolutely love the games out today and the budgets they put into them-- they couldn't do that if it was still a PC world (look at what "indie" games are like).

Only irk is when they clearly didn't even test the game with KB/M (cough Dead Space 1), but I find most game types with that issue are better played with a gamepad anyways...

People getting too mad for nothing, you're telling me the game has AUTOMATIC graphics settings (much like BF3 auto mode) so the people who bought it could just play it and not worry?? How crazy a concept.
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post #152 of 192
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People will Rage at John Carmack and what he says but deep down you know that everything he says is TRUE.
This. Consoles just outsell PC's. That's life. Has been this way for many years. I don't see big corporate food monters offering gaming pcs as a grand price, but more a "PS3/XBOX package" or whatever. I've never once seen an Nvidia commercial on TV, seen plenty of xbox ads though.
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Then it's not a console "port." It's a multiplatform game designed with different hardware limitations in mind. I agree though, I absolutely love the games out today and the budgets they put into them-- they couldn't do that if it was still a PC world (look at what "indie" games are like).

Only irk is when they clearly didn't even test the game with KB/M (cough Dead Space 1), but I find most game types with that issue are better played with a gamepad anyways...

People getting too mad for nothing, you're telling me the game has AUTOMATIC graphics settings (much like BF3 auto mode) so the people who bought it could just play it and not worry?? How crazy a concept.
Yeah, automatic graphics options is great (irony)

Sure they can tell if the game is running at 60 FPS as it should be, and sure they can tell what GPU you have and how much RAM it has etc etc and make a guess. But it won't know how the end result looks, it won't have a clue.

It also won't account for the fact that i think motion blur is a horrible system hog that is only annoying and i would rather have better shadows or particles. Or that i prefer drawn distance over "x" other thing. Sure, have the option there for the newbs or those who don't care ( no offense meant really, a newb is a newb ), but for gods sake just leave in the advanced options too, not like that takes SEVERAL weeks to make and test...
Oh, it also doesn't account for the fact that mouse smoothing is not needed unless the game has a horrible horrible mouse implementation or you have a ball mouse.
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Rage works on PC doesn't it? What exactly is the big issue for you to say you'll never buy a game from them again?

Seriously, all I've heard is some odd texture-popping glitch and that you guys don't have an ingame graphics option page. Is that a big deal to you? A little dramatic IMO. Do you think the console one works perfectly, zero problems?
Maybe the fact that they essentially admitted they aren't really trying with the PC version?

If I'm not considered to be as valuable as a customer why should I bother to purchase from them anymore?
    
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I don't know why anyone is surprised. Carmack has been saying for years that Rage was being developed equally across all platforms. Every interview about Rage that I can remember makes note of this, that the differences between versions will only be those that the PC offers by nature (i.e. higher resolution, more AA/AF, etc).

He's also said that the PC version of Doom 4 will go above and beyond what the console versions will be doing.
and when it doesn't he'll fall back to this.
    
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It's simple really:

- If you're a hater, then hate and don't buy/play the game.
- If you're a gamer, then game and buy/play the game (and stop belly aching about bugs and this and that - if you're worth the salt your licking, then you can figure out a way around the problems)

It doesn't take long for a thread to get off course around here does it? lol.

I for one am playing the shiz out of this game, and loving every minute of it. I cant help but laugh as I chuck wingsticks at muties and watch their heads fly off.
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It's simple really:

- If you're a hater, then hate and don't buy/play the game.
- If you're a gamer, then game and buy/play the game (and stop belly aching about bugs and this and that - if you're worth the salt your licking, then you can figure out a way around the problems)

It doesn't take long for a thread to get off course around here does it? lol.

I for one am playing the shiz out of this game, and loving every minute of it. I cant help but laugh as I chuck wingsticks at muties and watch their heads fly off.
OT: How is it? Worth buying new?
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Honestly I don't get why anyone is even raging over this. I played it on day one and had these same issues then guess what? Two days later I upgraded to the 11.10 AMD drivers and made a simple CFG file for 8k textures and everything worked flawlessly. The game looked and played great even on my 4870. I finished it earlier today and had a great time. So much over reaction towards this.
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I'm just waiting for a patch and official nVidia drivers before I delve into Rage. I hate having to switch off SLI for just ONE game and running beta drivers is annoying because I hate running beta anything.
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Nobody is saying PC games aren't viable and profitable, it's just that if it's a multiplatform game, generally the PC is the lowest selling of those platforms.
While true; pc sales are counted against PS3, 360, and wii (sometimes, lol) combined as "console". I wonder, out of novelty, how the pc stacks up when compared against individual platforms. Of course porting between consoles is a cake walk compared to the pc I'm sure...so on the developers end I'm sure it's not an equal comparison, hence lumping them together.

Wow that was a pointless ramble. I need to lay off the coffee...
    
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