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While true; pc sales are counted against PS3, 360, and wii (sometimes, lol) combined as "console". I wonder, out of novelty, how the pc stacks up when compared against individual platforms. Of course porting between consoles is a cake walk compared to the pc I'm sure...so on the developers end I'm sure it's not an equal comparison, hence lumping them together.

Wow that was a pointless ramble. I need to lay off the coffee...
No, typically it's stacked against them individually. And we come far behind both 360 and PS3 in total sales.
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http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2163629

Game has been updated, more options, fixes, ect.
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My point is. The developers I stated above, especially Blizzard out sells ANYONE even though they don't have ANY games on console. Yet they STILL out sell console games. This proves that PC is not in the state that Carmack states. The issue is his development team beeing horrid and not admitting it. He'd instead bash PC instead of sucking up the fact his game was broken on PC.

I agree on the fact that consoles generally out sell PC on MOST games. But the MMO industry is still the largest and most successful of any genre on any medium in terms of money made Period.
I believe Carmack's statement was in the context of multiplatform games. Certain games like RTS, and MMO aren't really ready for consoles yet. MMOs are getting there a bit, but some of them have user interfaces that just plain wouldn't transfer to consoles. Just as dual analog stick is better for certain things (IMO), mouse and keyboard is better for others. One thing PC has over consoles is the server setups, with PC games developers can setup server/client architectures however they would like, but when on consoles you have to go through MS or Sony and do things their way.


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http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2163629

Game has been updated, more options, fixes, ect.
Hawt. Still don't understand why developers aren't putting them there on day 1, based on releases over the last few years I'm sure they could've anticipated the demand for such things.
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OT: How is it? Worth buying new?
Being 100% honest, I was upset when I loaded it up and had those issues.. BUT, I knew there had to be people already working a fix, and I knew that within a short amount of time there would be something fixing those problems, so I didn't let it turn me off to the game. I had, and still have faith in my fellow PC gamers that they would not let us down.

So to answer your question: Now that there are solid fixes - yes, this game is worth buying new. But I've only played the single player so far, haven't tried the multi. I really think this new id 5 engine has some great potential for the PC game world - it just had a bad intro is all.

I just think there are too many Debbie Downers who allow themselves to get so turned off because of minor things - in a way I think it's our own fault for demanding more and more of developers, only to turn around and raise torches and pitchforks at them when something isn't exactly the way we wanted. Two cents deposited.

Back OT: From Carmacks comments, I'm pumped for D4 now
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Funny how back in July he said he regretted designing for consoles and now this. Carmack would make a great politician.

Oh, and that's another developer to add to the 'do-not-buy' list.
More of you need to think like this.
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Funny how back in July he said he regretted designing for consoles and now this. Carmack would make a great politician.

Oh, and that's another developer to add to the 'do-not-buy' list.
He probably regrets designing for consoles from a standpoint of making the coolest games possible. Not from a standpoint of being the most successful business.
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Consoles are bad. Will never go back to exclusive console gaming because with the right hardware, console gaming just doesn't compare. I will find another hobby like reading before I surrender to the thousands of titles that are spoon fed to kids on consoles.
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More of you need to think like this.
why? i get more upset about the fact that pc gaming means windows, i wish there were more "multiple platform OS" game titles than just windows, does that mean i should boycott gaming all together cause the dev's have chosen to ignore the other OS's out there?
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I dunno. If the WiiU has good 3rd party support, I might shift back to console gaming and leave only RTS to the PC.

BF3 is looking medicore as well. I already had the BF2 experience, I don't feel like having BC2 rehash graphics be thrown into my multiplayer. Hopefully single player is going to deliver, as it might be the only big reason why I'm going to pick it up.
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Played Rage for a little bit and I like it (a lot like Borderlands, but without the humor), but the muddy textures really are frustrating.
Sure, the framerates are phenomenal, but I thought it was cuz the settings were set to low. Nope. There are no real settings. I'd rather run at 25fps with high-res textures than at 60fps with nearby scenery that looks like mudbutt.
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