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Your loss. The PC community is sicking sometimes.
There was no loss here. Rage sucked period. Mindless gameplay with no story what so ever. Financially the game was a waste of time & money.
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I would actually like to see the source of where you got the sales of RAGE on each platform.
Also, as to your ignorant comment that PC gaming is dead for AAA titles and publishers; what about THQ, Square Enix, Valve, etc and their development teams? They may not be going, "PC gaming, let's focus everything on that platform!" But THQ and Square Enix have their eyes on PC gaming still, and AAA titles like Metro 2033/Just Cause 2 have noticeable differences from the console versions.
Sales figures for pc have always been misleading. Steam never releases sales information, and we know they are the largest DD service. Most console games are sold in a non digital fashion making their numbers easier to track. So debating who sells more is pointless since you cant actually find out how much was sold on the pc.
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post #183 of 192
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Your loss. The PC community is sicking sometimes.
Agreed, Rage has been patched and works fine, and it has the best non-modded textures of any game.
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I find it pretty pathetic that a man that owes the entire existence of his company to PC gamers is turning his back on them.

He would be absolutely nothing without us and it's pretty sad that he doesn't remember that.

Oh well, I'll just buy from developers that still have the capability to program a good game, the consolites can keep Id if they are just going to keep producing crap like rage.
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I have a friend who said this game is 'fun'. The game is your typical console port, iron sight shooting, brown color palette, minimal effort shooter. This is the same friend who hates CoD and doesn't enjoy console games anymore. Ironic, huh?
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Times have changed, before the current gen consoles it was not very easy to a developer to develop a game for both PC and consoles and have it look and run similarly on both.

Now that developers can develop the game they wanted, and get it to 10x as many customers by shipping it on consoles it means that PC development is secondary. PC gamers over the last 5 years have had trouble coming to terms with this, they used to get the best titles, and the consoles sometimes never saw those titles come to them. Now about 90% of the major developers are targeting consoles as the lead platforms. The PC-focused games that I see remaining for now are MMOs and RTS games, those are not nearly as easy to pull of on a console given the limitations of the networking and the controls, but if the next-gen consoles come with keyboard and mouse, PC games could lose out even more.
I'm sorry, but this is one hell of a post. +rep
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Times have changed, before the current gen consoles it was not very easy to a developer to develop a game for both PC and consoles and have it look and run similarly on both.

Now that developers can develop the game they wanted, and get it to 10x as many customers by shipping it on consoles it means that PC development is secondary. PC gamers over the last 5 years have had trouble coming to terms with this, they used to get the best titles, and the consoles sometimes never saw those titles come to them. Now about 90% of the major developers are targeting consoles as the lead platforms. The PC-focused games that I see remaining for now are MMOs and RTS games, those are not nearly as easy to pull of on a console given the limitations of the networking and the controls, but if the next-gen consoles come with keyboard and mouse, PC games could lose out even more.
Lot of games are simple mindless games.
fun for a moment and spend some time with.
PC gaming is though due to piracy where simple games basically is downloaded and played and last what 12 hours?

I cant understand why developers concern themselves with simple games to the PC platform, as we now see, BF3 with a new engine has likely the biggest hype for a game since the days of doom and tetris.

I play MMO and fps shooters and there I played bf2, bc2 and now moving onto BF3. Buying a simple PC game as "rage" is out of the question for me.

Making a good PC game has not much to do with the engine or the past history of the developer, it has to do with innovation and identifying the customer needs. PC gamers tends to be more older and can afford new hardware if needed.

Console gaming get a lot of attention due to them playing those buy a lot of mindless games and are easier for a developer to push for since they get more money even if their game sucks. For a developer or a shareholder, its common sense to develop for console first and primary.

But making a game for PC that is hot and hyped as BF3, in spite of being a clone of mw3, allows the notice its doable and possible to make a game that works for PC that sells but also require some innovation not just in graphics but also in game play. BF3 dosnt play the same as previous BF games, but mw3 will do. If EA make the mistake to do more of the MW series they do a huge mistake.

Lot of games are made to make money first and foremost, not to enjoy you or me but to make money. and if the customer likes 12 hour gaming, and then off to the next title, no wonder more such games are produced and then no wonder they are copied and pirated. I buy my games, but I dont play a lot of them either, I play some MMO and some bf3, that sums my gaming up.
console gaming never been interesting for me, tried it but simply sucks.

The obvious is that rage is a bad game on the PC, we don't buy games that dosnt add a lot of things for us that we call fun which is subjectively for each and one of us, but it also sends a message, make games fun and innovative as many indie developers tends to do.
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I'm yet to play rage but it looks very good. Also on the TV advert it says PC footage shown.
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Well then why did they even waste their time with porting it over to PC?

id - a pioneer in PC gaming who is no longer relevant.
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John Carmack has been pretty clear for almost 5 years that it was being made with consoles in mind. I get he doesn't run an orphanage or cured cancer but Carmack/id have done alot for the PC gaming community. I don't get the lynch mob that thinks they made him who he is. Is he indebted to you forever because you bought Quake? Can you not enjoy a game knowing that a 360 can run it also?
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