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Funny how back in July he said he regretted designing for consoles and now this. Carmack would make a great politician.

Oh, and that's another developer to add to the 'do-not-buy' list.
You do realize that he has a point, right? Why would you fault the man for realizing the truth? I love PC gaming like the next guy, but the console market dominates the PC market with non-casual games. There is more profitability for developers and publishers. They are easier for customers to invest in, because they don't have to worry about how well their PC will run it, whether they need to upgrade, whether they will get some weird error they cant figure out. They can trade these games in, re-sell them, or let friends borrow them or even rent them.

For anyone who wants the full experience, I absolutely tell them to play on their PC as there is nothing comparable to a decent gaming PC, but for most people, the consoles are the way to go. You're going to boycott id just because of that fact? It's not exactly his fault its a fact, and PC gamers need to accept the reality of it and not get their panties in a bunch when the consoles have quite a few advantages over the PC.(not saying the consoles are better, just thats its not a definite PC>consoles)
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i think i've figured out the train of thought behind a lot of these posts.
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Huh, that makes sense. I don't see id as a leading game company.
    
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There's two ways to look at this.

(1) They made the best business decision by focusing on the consoles as the lead platform.

(2) If you're going to release the game on PC and put your name to it, why would you release some half baked POS?

Ultimately, they made both a good and bad business decision. There is nothing wrong with focusing on the consoles as the lead platform, that's where the money is. However, if you are going to release the game on PC, at least show that you have put some effort in to it! Not just simple change the files types and control scheme and then port it over (which is what it seems like they've done from all the problems I've been hearing)

Ultimately, after this, I have to seriously wonder if I will ever buy an ID product on PC again. With such a pathetic effort with Rage, why would I waste my money? I'll take my hard earned and spend it on The Witcher 3, Capcom titles, BF3 or any other game that is actually developed for my platform. Not just ported over. PC doesn't need to be the lead platform, that's fine. But if you are gonna release the game on PC, for the love of god can you atleast put some effort in?

In the end what Carmack is basically saying is that they shouldn't have even bothered spending money "developing" for the PC and just focused on the consoles. Seeing as they released a POS on the PC, it probably cost them more in development costs than what they will make from sales simply because no one is going to buy the game after the terrible press this game has gotten. They have bitten themselves in the ass here
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Yup.
ID is going on my "Not interested" list.

Doom 3 was pretty bad, Rage was abysmally badly done, and now he is admitting that they arent interestded in the one platform that can actually make use of IDtech5.
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i think i've figured out the train of thought behind a lot of these posts.
Me too.

...And that is, PC gamers =

 
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Why should I invest in a game where the developers didn't bother investing in the platform I play on?
Some people just don't understand this point. +1
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Why would they put the most resources in PC when it generates the lowest return? you sir are a terrible business man.
It makes good business sense, but for the consumer which I am, it sucks.
Is the end result to please the consumer or to make money? The latter is king.

I can care less how much money X makes, if they want me to invest in something, it has to be a quality product. I'm not go to understand business decisions when they are still asking me to pay $59.99 for their game. I will understand more if they say, "Hey, we were unable to produce a quality product for PC, therefore we are dropping the price to $29.99."
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I will defend PC till I pass.

I've been seeing a lot of hate articles over at HardOCP @ Rage and their team.

Never even heard of these guys till articles started popping up about them. By the looks of it, I am aiming @ these guys are pure idiots over @ ID? Rage? Either one.

I lol'd at this though, saying the game is pure garbage.

http://www.hardocp.com/news/2011/10/05/rage_post_day/
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I will defend PC till I pass.

I've been seeing a lot of hate articles over at HardOCP @ Rage and their team.

Never even heard of these guys till articles started popping up about them. By the looks of it, I am aiming @ these guys are pure idiots over @ ID? Rage? Either one.

I lol'd at this though, saying the game is pure garbage.

http://www.hardocp.com/news/2011/10/05/rage_post_day/
That's rich. I'm sorry sir but you can't wear your PC Gamer Elitist Badge and wave your PC Gaming flag if you don't know who ID is. The exit is down the hall and to the left.
 
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