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Originally Posted by Opeth07;15221984 
So devs are putting less effort into making quality PC games and then are going to blame bad sales on piracy or lack of mindless consumerist tendencies on the part of PC players. Awesome, lose lose situation for PC gamers.

Anyone ever consider that the developers aren't so much leaving us as much as we are driving them away? I always see people here jump to point the fingers towards them, but we never look at the habits of our peers that may be causing them to move towards consoles.
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Originally Posted by Korben;15221882 
Don't understand what all the fuss is about. Carmack is making perfect sense here. Plus I've had no issues with Rage at all the game runs perfectly fine on my machine. Don't understand why people are expecting so much just because you are purchasing expensive graphics cards does not mean you are going to be getting full use out them, we are at cycle now of 10 years get used to it because majority of companies aren't even spending much time on PC ports unless you are Valve or Blizzard.

You all are still missing the point here.

They are still charging us $59.99 for games that are inferior and broken!
They are not lowering the asking price to compensate.
Does that make sense, devs selling inferior versions of games that don't function properly?

Wow.
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More reason to believe DICE is lying when they say PC is leading platform for BF3. EA owns DICE. EA has shown in their history that they rather target the money making platform which is consoles.

If id is putting PC priority in last place, what makes people think EA/DICE will do differently?
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Originally Posted by Riou;15222025 
More reason to believe DICE is lying when they say PC is leading platform for BF3. EA owns DICE. EA has shown in their history that they rather target the money making platform which is consoles.

If id is putting PC priority in last place, what makes people think EA/DICE will do differently?

Because BF3 has proven it so far...you play Caspian Border yet? THAT is what PC gaming is all about!
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Ya know, I have been gaming on PC and consoles both for years. I come to expect PC games to be buggy or even broke outa the box. It comes with the territory. But console games I still believe should work out of the box with no patches needed no questions asked.

The expectancy of the result is just the reason why people put more effort on consoles than PC..
    
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Originally Posted by WorldExclusive;15222047 
Trolls troll. We already know where you stand on the EA/DICE subject,
and go out of your way to post it everywhere you can.
It is true though, right? Why devote millions of dollars to such a small user base? Console gaming is where the money is at for big publishers.
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Originally Posted by Riou;15222071 
It is true though, right? Why devote millions of dollars to such a small user base? Console gaming is where the money is at for big publishers.
It's not true. It's not a small user base at all, even excluding the most casual PC players that just play facebook games. Bad Company 2 sold the most on PC compared to 360/PS3 according to a DICE dev, Portal 2 sold the most on PC, Witcher 2 has done extremely well for a niche game...

Then there are RTS games like Starcraft 2, HoN/LoL.

Imo it's just a question of being bothered to make a quality game for the platform. I'm very disappointed that iD don't seem to see it that way.
Edited by Arnotts - 10/8/11 at 1:47am
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It's amusing really, you don't have to spend a whole lot of money in order to have a really nice computer. $500-$700 will land you a fairly powerful computer if you do your research.

I don't see how I.D. Software, the makers of DOOM, can bash or stand against PC games when it was the PC that got them where they are now. tongue.gif Take that.
     
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Shame.

It IS the leading platform and it will ALWAYS be. Consoles can't do anything but look at PC with a telescope and an astral card.

It doesn't give as much money? True. But in terms of technology and freedom of programming, it is far, FAR better than consoles. You don't have a terribly low hardware ceiling, nor a tiny optical support where you have to embed a full game.


@Imglidinhere:

So true. I was doing a simulation of a new mATX PC build yesterday, and the WHOLE system including graphics waterblocks for the GPUs (I can scavenge the rest of the loop), only leaving aside the DVD drive and the case, was €1300.

Just so you see, it sported a HD6950 2GB REFERENCE Crossfire, an i5 2500k, an ASUS Gene IV, 8 Gigs of Corsair Vengeance 1600 CL8, a Corsair TX750 PSU, a Seagate 5900 2TB storage drive, an OCZ Vertex III 64GB SSD, and a couple of EK copper+acetal GPU blocks.

You could leave only one graphics card with its respective waterblock, take out the SSD and you'd nearly halved the price of the system.
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Good thing I didn't buy RAGE. I expected this out of ID. Everyone was just hyping the game up because it was ID developing and whatnot. What a disappointment, really. Co-op mode has 10 or so missions all around lasting about 3 hours total. What?!
    
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