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Do you even know how much game developers make? DRM is being used so that company's can actually make a profit on their game or improve their standard of living. Economics 101.
I am not even talking about the Dev's I am talking about publishers and how we the Consumers, are getting shafted by their greed and its Ok with people.

This isn't a war against pirates, its a war against consumers. I don't even want to buy PC games anymore because they are such a PITA to play on my available connection. And I am against Pirating as much as the next guy. I also don't like the mentality of the industry that is "Owell, its not really yours anyway you just rent it from us but, thanks for the money and shove off" Its Crap!

I also don't get why so many on OCN get the idea that great Unlimited High Speed Internet is available anywhere and everywhere. So much of just the USA is not covered by such a network.

Also, most of us don't have the option to MOVE because of the lack of access. Its a major issue.
     
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Do you even know how much game developers make? DRM is being used so that companies can actually make a profit on their game or improve their standard of living. Economics 101.
Wrong.

DRM hurts sales, not increases them. It's been proven;

http://www.overclock.net/technology-...es-piracy.html

I know that is about the music industry but results for the video game industry are pretty much identical.

The stupidity of thinking of every download as a lost sale is naive. It's like thinking of every stolen car as a lost car sale. It's totally flawed logic.

People always have, and always will, steal. It's part of life. Most people who torrent have no intention of purchasing the product. In fact, for my game design course at Uni we studied the effects of piracy on the gaming industry and actually found that the evidence suggests that piracy INCREASES sales.

Because people who had never intended to purchase the game in the first place decide after playing the game that it is worth a purcahse. This is one of the reasons why releasing more demos would help curb piracy. I know a lot of people who download games to try them out before they spend $80-$100 buying the game (And you americans complain about paying $50 for a game. We pay almost double, even for a game on steam where shipping and freight shouldn't be taken into account).

Ultimately, all DRM does is push people away from your product. You are punishing paying customers because of totally flawed logic (counting every download as a lost sale).

So you are totally wrong if you think DRM is good for the gaming industry. Just look at The Witcher 2. By the end of the year it is estimated to have sold 2m+ copies on PC alone and its DRM free (GoG version at least). For a niche game from a relatively small name developer that is fantastic. People have supported the game with their money and CDProjekt realise that if you treat your customers right, they will return the favor. I personally have recommended TW2 to some friends who had never heard of The Witcher and went out and purchased the game. I own 2 copies of TW2 and will likely buy the X360 version when it drops next year.

So you are totally wrong. You just listen to what the publishers cry and take it as fact. The reality is that most games don't sell well because most games are generic crap. Not beacuse of piracy.
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What I don't understand is why people even feel the need to pirate Stalker (at least in the US). On release day, CoP was priced at $40 and on Steam you could get it for $20 if you purchased either of the previous games. Even at $40 it's a steal considering the amount of enjoyment I got out of it. They are fully within their rights trying to protect their investment with this overbearing DRM; but even for a massive fan like me this news has pushed the game to the 'wait and see' category instead of a 'release day purchase regardless of how well it reviews'.
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Have server/client mmo stopped people from creating private servers?
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Wow that sounds horrible. If your internet loses connection you get screwed. Such a bad idea. Will not be getting this game.
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What I don't understand is why people even feel the need to pirate Stalker (at least in the US). On release day, CoP was priced at $40 and on Steam you could get it for $20 if you purchased either of the previous games. Even at $40 it's a steal considering the amount of enjoyment I got out of it. They are fully within their rights trying to protect their investment with this overbearing DRM; but even for a massive fan like me this news has pushed the game to the 'wait and see' category instead of a 'release day purchase regardless of how well it reviews'.
You can even get it for $6 - $7 if you look hard enough
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I don't understand this. It's not a game that has a heavy online basis and it really only affects the people who get the game by legitimate means because everyone here knows that pirated versions will come with some sort of crack.

These kinds of DRMs seriously remind me of anti-gun laws.

*edit* Of course even legitimate buyers can get a crack. It shouldn't be necessary, though.


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Wow that sounds horrible. If your internet loses connection you get screwed. Such a bad idea. Will not be getting this game.
This sort of thing is still laughable. It may be an intrusive DRM, but if the game is good then it's good. Why make yourself miss out on something because of a stupid DRM that can easily be cracked?
Edited by moocowman - 10/8/11 at 6:17pm
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Boo. This will definitely screw with mods, having content streaming. Stalker with gimped modding is a no-buy from me.
    
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Well this is another title i won't be buying.

It wouldn't surprise me if this actually encourages piracy, not hinder it. People are likely to protest by pirating and NOT buying this.
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Well this is another title i won't be buying.

It wouldn't surprise me if this actually encourages piracy, not hinder it. People are likely to protest by pirating and NOT buying this.
Or just not caring about it anymore. It's not as if there's a shortage of games.
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