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De-Zant is right and you will not notice anything below 8ms GTG anyway due to your eyes having a greater input lag than the monitor. the OP has false beliefs.
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De-Zant is right and you will not notice anything below 8ms GTG anyway due to your eyes having a greater input lag than the monitor. the OP has false beliefs.
This is not what I meant, and I do not support this theory of yours about eyes having input lag making the input lag/ghosting of a monitor not noticeable.

Besides, you're confusing response times and input lag, and you too are quoting response times. Response times represent ghosting, which you would see no matter how "laggy" your actual eyes would be, not that response times actually are able to represent it accurately. Input lag is another issue, where the circuitry of the display processes the image before displaying it, causing 10-60ms of delay before the image is displayed. This would also be noticeable even if the eyes had inherent input lag.
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120hz will make gameplay much smoother if your rig can produce above 60FPS.

Resposne times... read my post above. They are outright lies if you want it simple. Don't demand a monitor witha quoted response times, and don't quote response times.
I couldn't agree more. I love my XL2410T and it's ridiculously fast response time and smoothness.
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This is another myth.

The input lag on a panel depends on the individual panel, not on the size of the thing, or the panel technology.
There is some truth to it, larger panels generally have a larger pixel response time. However, I have no doubt you'll be able to find an equally fast 27" compared to an XL2410T
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There is some truth to it, larger panels generally have a larger pixel response time. However, I have no doubt you'll be able to find an equally fast 27" compared to an XL2410T
Yes but you can't generalize. That was the point
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But bigger lcds tend to have a little more input lag than the old 23/24º, google for low input lag panels and forget about the responsiveness time.
The Samsung S27A950 and A750 panels are 3D capable of 120hz and should be as responsive, or moreso than any smaller panels.

Most new 30" IPS panels with overdrive are as fast or faster than smaller IPS panels.

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Don't look at response times. They are nothing but advertising lies.

If the manufacturer even bothers to test the monitor for them, they test gray to gray transitions. The only ones that really matter are larger transitions. On black to white transitions, or vice versa, most 2ms/1ms monitors would take 20ms or more.

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This is not what I meant, and I do not support this theory of yours about eyes having input lag making the input lag/ghosting of a monitor not noticeable.

Besides, you're confusing response times and input lag, and you too are quoting response times. Response times represent ghosting, which you would see no matter how "laggy" your actual eyes would be, not that response times actually are able to represent it accurately. Input lag is another issue, where the circuitry of the display processes the image before displaying it, causing 10-60ms of delay before the image is displayed. This would also be noticeable even if the eyes had inherent input lag.
^This

1ms is a sham and a scam, and likely represents some best case scenario. And anyways, a 60hz panel refreshes every 16.6666666ms so why do you need a screen with response time faster than that anyways, OP?

More marketing to steal your hard-earned $
Edited by 10e - 10/8/11 at 7:45am
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There are no LCD monitors with a true 1ms response time. Response time doesn't matter anymore for TN panels.
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Ok guys so we have gathered that response time doesnt realy matter much, so that doesnt realy help me decide on a monitor to buy though does it?

Theres 2 monitors i've been looking at which are roughly the same price

an Iiyama-
http://www.iiyama-monitors.co.uk/pro...773HDS-B1.aspx

or a Samsung


The Iiyama is looking like the best option as its 27" apposed to 24" but as i've said, im clueless on the subject
Edited by dantheman121 - 10/8/11 at 5:35pm
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post #18 of 18
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This is another myth.

The input lag on a panel depends on the individual panel, not on the size of the thing, or the panel technology.
Yes, but check this out:



http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.p...p2=11317&ph=12

Acer seems to be in the good way for gaming.This makes me want to buy the HN274H!
edit:forget what i just said..."Responsiveness: ghosting time too long"

So, at this moment the GN24 from Acer is the best gaming LCD?
Edited by dr.noob - 10/9/11 at 5:58pm
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