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Exactly,haha I said the same thing why would a CPU produce more frames even though it is GPU limited?
It is ridiculous that people will come up with pure nonsense because they are worried that something might be true.

That sounds like the worlds best CPU to me, if it can add frames to a GPU that can't go any farther.
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The guy should run the benchmarks on the latest Windows 8 Developer Preview with the updated sheduler.
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Does anybody else realize that when you overclock, if something is unstable (HINT HINT) it can LOWER performance? *le gasp*

I would not doubt that overclock is unstable.
not by that much

i have my doubts if this is legit or not,

but i have a suspicion it is, and i am dissapoint... even if it doesn't cold bug... and scales.. it won't matter if it's just another remodeled thuban or if it's even worse
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On the theoretical 32nm Phenom II stuff...

it's my understanding that MHz increase heat output linearly, aka 2GHz is twice the heat as 1GHz. Also it's my understanding that heat output = power consumption.

So looking at Thuban, it looks like the 2.9GHz is the fastest 95w TDP 6-core AMD CPU. Using the Athlon 64 x2 as a reference, a die-shrink should take that down to 65w.

Now with a 65w CPU, wouldn't you have a lot of clockrate headroom to "pull a P4" and crank it as high as possible, up into a 95w or 125w TDP?


The only thing is, it's my understanding that higher clocks need higher vcore, and voltage exponentially increases heat output. This wouldn't be a problem except that, yet again, it's my understanding that too high of a vcore can fry your CPU, and therefore you'd be greatly limited to how high you can clock a 32nm Phenom II.



So guys, is anything I've said above actually accurate?
 
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so it's slower than my 1090T? come on guys do you seriously think this is how it will perform?
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I'm taking these benchmarks with a whole salt mine, but AMD doesn't have the resources to keep up with or beat it's competitor either.
I dont think AMD's corporate structuring really has anything to do with what will happen. Sure, it's a speculators goldmine when you look at what should come out of the company based on statistics and capital, but underdogs tend to rear their heads when least expected.

It happens in every industry. Reminds me of the Ariel Atom. At $49,980 USD, its nearly one of the fastest road-going cars in the world. You could take what you saved over a Veyron and build your own track to drive it on! Lets just hope AMD pulls a rabbit here.
    
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I dont think AMD's corporate structuring really has anything to do with what will happen. Sure, it's a speculators goldmine when you look at what should come out of the company based on statistics and capital, but underdogs tend to rear their heads when least expected.

It happens in every industry. Reminds me of the Ariel Atom. At $49,980 USD, its nearly one of the fastest road-going cars in the world. You could take what you saved over a Veyron and build your own track to drive it on! Lets just hope AMD pulls a rabbit here.
Are you really comparing an Ariel Atom to a Veyron? The Atom is essentially a go-kart with a Honda engine...the parts used to build it cost nowhere near $50,000. The Veyron on the other hand is a technological showcase with a quad-turbo W16 engine that cost hundreds of millions of $$ to develop. Can the Atom go anywhere close to 253 mph? No, it can't even break 160... Besides, if it rains while you're out in your Atom, you're screwed
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So what are the chances that all the benchmarks over the last month are all way off? Or are the chances better that even just one of them is somewhat representative?

Occam's Razor...
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The guy should run the benchmarks on the latest Windows 8 Developer Preview with the updated sheduler.
It still won't make up the performance deficit we are seeing in these leaks.

Either all these leaked benches are cripplied by an inappropriate AGESA, drivers, OS etc or AMD are in a whole world of hurt.

I want it to perform well as Intel seriously needs some competition.
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So what are the chances that all the benchmarks over the last month are all way off? Or are the chances better that even just one of them is somewhat representative?

Occam's Razor...
Having seen all benchmarks of BD, I have to admit, I'm not getting my hopes up but who knows ...
If I ware to choose between two likely scenarios, I'd go with BD being thuban with a couple of extra cores and more L3 cache than all these benchmarks being fake.

@SSJVegeta:
Yeah, they sure do ... I'd love to see BD kicking some 2600k ass. Competition is great. Just look at how the GPU market is.
Imagine the prices of nvidia GPUs if AMD would be as far behind as they are in the CPU department.
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