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Wait, what? I know SuperPi is, but since when is wPrime?
No idea, but the result sure is
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post #262 of 541
Did you guys see this:

http://lab501.ro/procesoare-chipsetu...ldozer-preview

definitely not looking good.
    
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post #263 of 541
If these are legit I wounder how much of a difference new BIOS / drivers will make. They could make a decent performance difference.

I'm going to wait for a few reliable review websites to post their results before I make my upgrade decision.

4.5Ghz @1.456v is a bit disappointing. This is a 32nm chip, and a voltage that high does worry me a bit. I wonder what a safe 24/7 voltage will be for these chips. I'm going to guess it'll be around what sandy bridge can handle.
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post #264 of 541
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LinX gets slower results with HT on than off, that's probably also affecting the shared cores like that.

wPrime is crap.

Cinebench is interesting.

WinRAR is interesting. (Any results from SB owners @ 4Ghz?)



Trinity is based off Piledriver cores which are faster than BD.
Trinity, from the little leaked info out there, is just BD with newer core components like FPU,INT etc. We don't know if its a refresh or a update. Going forward however should allow alot of plug and play capability for AMD.

Time will tell and so will good honest benchmarks.
post #265 of 541
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Wait, what? I know SuperPi is, but since when is wPrime?
It's a synthetic benchmark that really doesn't show representative performance.

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Trinity, from the little leaked info out there, is just BD with newer core components like FPU,INT etc. We don't know if its a refresh or a update. Going forward however should allow alot of plug and play capability for AMD.

Time will tell and so will good honest benchmarks.
True, as well BIOS updates, etc mostly.


It's kinda obvious only one core actually was at the rated clock speed in half of these benchmarks we've seen, which would gimp BD quite a bit...
    
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post #266 of 541
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It's kinda obvious only one core actually was at the rated clock speed in half of these benchmarks we've seen, which would gimp BD quite a bit...
That would be great news but I doubt it.
post #267 of 541
This thread is proving my expectations true
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you have to remember that AMD had to do a new uarch and a node shrink all at one time,this is very risky and hard to do,even intel avoids this.there very well could have been unforseen issues that arose and couldnt be solved,they pretty much have to release it at that point and iron out any bugs later.just my opinion though.
I agree.

If you look at some of the early leaks and statements from AMD, they were saying things like 50% more performance for 33% more cores. And now... it seems like they will have a hard time equaling the performance of a theoretical Phenom II x8 (which in itself is unacceptable because it implies little to no IPC increase). Clearly, AMD ran into some major problems.

Like you said, a new uarch and a die shrink is very risky and that AMD was bound to have problems. Thus I had no issues defending the early BD performance leaks since AMD still had time to fix issues and optimize performance. But now it is confirmed that we are 1 week from launch...... people who are still defending these results thinking AMD has some magic BIOS or microcode they plan on releasing at launch are just silly. Come on, the writing is on the wall.

My guess is AMD is just going to release whatever they have (even if it is slower than PH II), make as much money as they can, and move to Piledriver (fixed BD) as quickly as possible. That would explain why Trinity was originally using BD cores but now will use PD cores AND that fact that 8 Piledriver cores will be released on AM3+ (Vishera) and NOT FM2 (Komodo).

Seems like AMD is trying to fix new uarch and get the manufacturing up to snuff before moving on -- hence the quick move to Piledriver.
Hopefully, PD will rock so I can switch back to my preferred company, AMD.
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That would be great news but I doubt it.
Look above, there's no way that one core at 55c and the others being around 35c means equal work/clocks on all cores.
    
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Even if its PII X8 that can clock to 4.8Ghz its still a good CPU for $250.
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