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Hi guys.. so my dad's planning on selling me his 10 years old receiver ( i believe ) for 170$.. it's a yamaha RX-V800 receiver.. i already had a pair of bookshelves hooked to a mini amp.. but the yamaha sounded a lot better compare to my mini amp.. one of the reason why it sounded good is probably because of i'm using digital input/output for the yamaha, so i bypassed the DAC from the computer...

My question is that if i were to buy a sound card, which DAC is better.. a brand new $200 sound card.. or my dad's 10 years old rx-v800.. the receiver is barely used by the way.. sitting at home collecting dust for most of the time.. which one u guys think it's a better investment??

EDIT: it's a RX-V800 actually.. was thinking it was a A800 the whole time.. sry guys..
Edited by xxlap1xx - 10/8/11 at 7:55pm
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My opinion; the onboard optical to a good 5.1 receiver is the best solution. the 108 db snr of the alc899 is more than good enough

however 50% of the people that populate overclock.net will disagree smile.gif

but you have no choice... if you put in a 1x pcie card your sli580s will go to x8x4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wimcle;15228748 
My opinion; the onboard optical to a good 5.1 receiver is the best solution. the 108 db snr of the alc899 is more than good enough

however 50% of the people that populate overclock.net will disagree smile.gif

but you have no choice... if you put in a 1x pcie card your sli580s will go to x8x4

Depends on if your receiver has LFE control, also on if you're Realtek has any DTS or DD streaming ability (my p6x58d-e does not for example), also on if you're content in gaming with mere 2.1 sound if you can't do DD or DTS.
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Well if you use onboard sound to go out to a receiver, you'll just still be outputting low quality sound to the receiver...Sure, it'll sound better having the receiver cleaning up the audio a little bit doing and doing its thing, but if you had a sound card, it would sound even that much better. You can get a cheap sound card for like 30-50 bucks, anything is better than onboard audio...then hook up the receiver to that instead if you want to go the receiver route. I mean, what's the point of hooking a quality reciever to it and amping up muddy onboard audio sound?
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Allen86;15228793 
Well if you use onboard sound to go out to a receiver, you'll just still be outputting low quality sound to the receiver...Sure, it'll sound better having the receiver cleaning up the audio a little bit doing and doing its thing, but if you had a sound card, it would sound even that much better. You can get a cheap sound card for like 30-50 bucks, anything is better than onboard audio...then hook up the receiver to that instead if you want to go the receiver route. I mean, what's the point of hooking a quality reciever to it and amping up muddy onboard audio sound?

Huh? You realize a digital connection is just that? It don't become muddy unless you're using the onboard DAC....which you're not with a digital passthrough connection
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well without hearing the receivers sound we couldn't possibly tell you, could we? tongue.gif all you are gonna find here is speculation based on less then farts, i suggest you find a sound card to listen to and make your decision based on that.
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Originally Posted by wimcle;15228748 
My opinion; the onboard optical to a good 5.1 receiver is the best solution. the 108 db snr of the alc899 is more than good enough

however 50% of the people that populate overclock.net will disagree smile.gif

but you have no choice... if you put in a 1x pcie card your sli580s will go to x8x4

I see.. the sad thing is that i'm already running x8x4 on sli lol...

108 db snr of the alc899.. is that something in the yamaha? lol sry for being noob.. will look that up later when i'm home heh..
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Originally Posted by Skripka;15228771 
Depends on if your receiver has LFE control, also on if you're Realtek has any DTS or DD streaming ability (my p6x58d-e does not for example), also on if you're content in gaming with mere 2.1 sound if you can't do DD or DTS.

well.. i'm not too sure.. i don't see any DTS or DD options under the "digital output tab" in the Realtek HD Audio Manager.. they only have DTS under the "speakers output tab".. DD is not available at all for my sound card..

but for right now i'm not too worried about surround sound yet, because i only have a pair of bookshelves, and not planning on going surround any time soon.. so it's not a big deal yet lol.. maybe later

by the way what are DTS and DD anyways? is it some kind of virtual data that can be converted to real time surround??
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xxlap1xx;15229065 
I see.. the sad thing is that i'm already running x8x4 on sli lol...

108 db snr of the alc899.. is that something in the yamaha? lol sry for being noob.. will look that up later when i'm home heh..
SNR is signal to noise ratio, and its irrelevant since you won't be using the onboard codecs DAC. You'll be sending digital to the recievers DAC (Digital>Analogue Converter). Really you need to compare DAC's for quality, your reciever will have a better DAC than your onboard - so your correct to use the digital out to it. I suspect you'd need a pretty high end soundcard or external DAC to better it as well. As mentioned above it depends if your onboard will do the encoding you want (DolbyDigitalLive or DTS Connect).
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Originally Posted by Darren9;15229143 
SNR is signal to noise ratio, and its irrelevant since you won't be using the onboard codecs DAC. You'll be sending digital to the recievers DAC (Digital>Analogue Converter). Really you need to compare DAC's for quality, your reciever will have a better DAC than your onboard - so your correct to use the digital out to it. I suspect you'd need a pretty high end soundcard or external DAC to better it as well. As mentioned above it depends if your onboard will do the encoding you want (DolbyDigitalLive or DTS Connect).

Oh I see... i don't have too much hope for my onboard sound.. i basically will just leave everything to be done by the yamaha... and regarding about DTS and DDL, i don't have any of those options under the digital output section in my realtek audio manager... the receiver is capable to encode those signals, but my soundcard don't have the ability to send them out.. hope i'm correct here..

as of right now i'm still not too sure what DTS and DDLs are lol.. will look that up later tho
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