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I agree, not everyone who spends that much cash on a CPU has the cash to go water cooling...

Same with High end GPU's...
The good closed loop systems are basically the same cost as the high end air coolers.

The difference in price between an H100 and an NH-D14 is around $15. You really can't find $15 somewhere if you're able to afford a $850 - $1250 CPU + Mobo combination? Get a regular coffee instead of a latte 4 times and you're done.

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As someone who had WCing, the cost is one of the smallest factors involved, WC is a real pain to work with in just about every way.
Closed loop coolers are every bit as easy to work with as air coolers are. Possibly easier sometimes as you have a lot more room inside the case to work with during the install and for doing anything else in there subsequently afterward.

Can you even replace RAM without a big hassle once you've installed an air cooler the size of a D14?

It's not just about the installation hassle, but WC loops make working with your machine's other areas a lot easier as well.
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post #92 of 98
Who didn't see this happening? If your spending 500$+ on a cpu it better have a block on it.
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This is why Asetek was brought on to build that liquid cooler for Intel
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I switched all my systems (gradually) over to Corsair water kits. I now have 5 in total. Seeing as I was a hardcore air cooling guy (I lapped numerous towers), it was a big step but at this point, couldn't be happier.

I don't see this as a big deal at all except to the companies that only make air coolers...
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Then why not get a cheaper CPU? It's kinda pointless to waste 1k on a CPU fi you can't give it proper cooling.

...It couldn't be that I'd see a tangible performance benefit from the faster CPU vs the water cooling, could it?

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The difference in price between an H100 and an NH-D14 is around $15. You really can't find $15 somewhere if you're able to afford a $850 - $1250 CPU + Mobo combination? Get a regular coffee instead of a latte 4 times and you're done.
Ah, close minded people.

NH-D14
: AU$96
H100: AU$169


Welcome to Australia, as you can clearly see, I could get 8GB RAM, upgrade from a HD6950 to a HD6970 or even get a 1TB HDD for the difference between those coolers, all of which would benefit me far more than the H100.

That said, the bundled cooler is a good idea.
    
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post #96 of 98
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Can you even replace RAM without a big hassle once you've installed an air cooler the size of a D14?
The D14's mounting system allows you to take the cooler off without needing to pull the motherboard out and remove the backplate. You just unclip and remove the center fan, unscrew two screws and it's off.
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The D14's mounting system allows you to take the cooler off without needing to pull the motherboard out and remove the backplate. You just unclip and remove the center fan, unscrew two screws and it's off.
Right, but that is annoying though and adds more time to the column of "air cooler installation ease".

The closed loops, you install and they sit forever until you want to replace your CPU or clean the fins...both things that air coolers require as well.

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Ah, close minded people.

NH-D14: AU$96
H100: AU$169


Welcome to Australia, as you can clearly see, I could get 8GB RAM, upgrade from a HD6950 to a HD6970 or even get a 1TB HDD for the difference between those coolers, all of which would benefit me far more than the H100.

That said, the bundled cooler is a good idea.
On an absolute scale, yes, that $79 difference in Australia can be used towards an HDD or something.

However, like I'm saying...if you can afford close to $1,000 for a CPU + Mobo combo, $79 isn't a big deal no matter what to you in all likelihood.

If it was, you should simply go with a Z68 build and save a few HUNDRED dollars at that point. The difference in performance for 99.9% of people won't matter. You need to be 3D rendering an absolute ton or be a HUGE folding nerd.
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post #98 of 98
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Right, but that is annoying though and adds more time to the column of "air cooler installation ease".

The closed loops, you install and they sit forever until you want to replace your CPU or clean the fins...both things that air coolers require as well.
With the closed loops, you have to install the radiator somewhere (Which with the long screwdriver I have, is pretty easy for both large coolers and WC) as well as the fans, then route the tubing to get to the CPU socket and then install the block/pump.
See, I can make relatively simple things sound hard too, closed loops are still harder to install than air coolers (Unless you don't have a long screwdriver like I do, which bypasses the fins and makes it a breeze to install a tower cooler) but its not by much, normal WC loops are really annoying to install IMO.
    
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