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Lab501.ro is the most respected site so far to provide benchmarks. This should be an accurate picture of the performance of bulldozer on the date of testing. Performance increases could come from more compatible bios releases but we do not know at this point.
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post #142 of 213
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Originally Posted by Electroneng;15234329 
Lab501.ro is the most respected site so far to provide benchmarks. This should be an accurate picture of the performance of bulldozer on the date of testing. Performance increases could come from more compatible bios releases but we do not know at this point.

Ya, because "respected site"s always use illegal copies of windows, and are not smart enough to hide it in screenshots.rolleyes.gif

AFAIK there have been no reliable benchmarks for BD, and this is definitely not the first.
    
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post #143 of 213
COuld a northbridge oc help improve the sesults? Maybe it is the heart of the problem! Maybe its bottlenecking BD somewhere, not that it will make miracles.
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post #144 of 213
Uhh,1. that Window's is not genuine thing happens even when you have a REAL COPY.
and 2. AMD is not a video game company. They have no reason to troll the **** out of their customers before release. All that will do is cause loss of sales and credibility even if BD had steller benches. That being said, I think the writing is pretty much on the wall for BD.

Also, what do these people have to gain by all of a sudden, burning AMD?
Edited by Liquidpain - 10/9/11 at 8:05am
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post #145 of 213
Tell you what I'm going to do

I'm going to wait until I see reviews after it is released officially before figuring if bulldozer is bad or not. No need to start a flame war based on something that is suppose to be under nda
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Originally Posted by xd_1771;15232571 
I consider anything before official release unconfirmed/a rumour for the sake of the fact that final optimizations (BIOS, OS, software) among other things have not been readied, meaning performance may not be representative of the final product.

Sorry but this is just a stupid reply...you could've maybe said this 5 months ago and I might have believed this. Now, a few days or weeks from launch of the processors that are already shipping, no BIOS/driver/update will ever fix a CPU with such crap performance and you know it. Best case scenario is 1%, maybe 5% performance gain from some BIOS/driver fix, if being REALLY optimistic.

To be honest, I can't believe I didn't see this coming: they have resurrected the relic FX name to signify core performance comparable to their ancient K8s (one of which I still have kicking in one of my rigs), they've followed in the footsteps of the Pentium 4 by showing us worthless gigglehurtz records without the actual performance behind them saying something along the lines of "if it clocks this high, it must be good!" and they've been "keeping quiet" in the same way they did for their gen 1 Phenom.

Every leak/preview I've seen so far shows the Bulldozer falling flat on its face in performance, losing to CPUs with half the core count & a lower TDP, and the people thinking this is some Intel conspiracy are blind: not even the world's biggest Intel fanboys want Bulldozer to fail this hard, because Intel haven't even released their "enthusiast level" CPU lineup yet and if this is the performance of the competition that's still stuck in 2007 competing against socket 775 CPUs, Intel may as well up the price of their CPUs...and I seriously dread to even image what they're going to price their SB-E processors at (starting at $1000 a piece for a non-extreme LGA 2011 CPU, anyone?), let alone the future Ivy Bridge CPUs. I doubt even Intel enjoy their performance lead, considering how many times they've competed with themselves and had to EOL their own platforms.

From everything I've seen, it seems clear they're going to pull another pre-B2 Phenom, even though this is their first new architecture since the K8, yet having performance comparable to their 2003 architecture. I for one, am not going to wait around before buying a PC for that to happen. I'll be picking up a cheap SB CPU in a few days before they go up in price, it's clear Bulldozer is not going to be competition to anything outside of the AM3 platform.And I'll be keeping the K8 rig as almost a tribute of the time when AMD CPUs didn't suck and helped/kick-started technological progress in x86 CPUs.
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post #147 of 213
Sigh, I'm a AMD fan but they really failed this time. IF these benches turn out to be true but they probably are (maybe ~10% boost from the new sheduler in win8).
And don't quote me and say it isn't fail because the price is right, you know when a product has failed if their new flagship is slower or equal to their previous one.
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I never built an Intel rig before but if preview has any truth to looks like I'll be going Intel next year. Sad so sad AMD.
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Originally Posted by nuklearwax;15234705 
I never built an Intel rig before but if preview has any truth to looks like I'll be going Intel next year. Sad so sad AMD.

I'm in the opposite camp. I've never built an AMD rig before but regardless of the performance I want to get an 8150 and build it later this year. I already have some spare parts and all I need is a cpu, mobo, and memory to have a very nice AMD secondary rig....
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Alright, I read all the posts on here, and here is what I conclude :

1. Bulldozer is a fail, AMD is just shy to announce it a few days/weeks before realese
2. Bulldozer is between i5 2500k and i7 2600k (What I expected), but
A) AMD is giving Stamples to bench them on randomly chosen sites (Not saying Lab501 is not trusty, just that, they could've give it to Tom anyone else too)
B) Intel is paying sites to make up some pretty good fake PREviews/Benchies.
3. Bulldozer is a OMG CPU and kicks ass every CPU currently in place, very low % of happening though.

Conclusion, we will see for sure in a few days, only if they perform equally or a bit better than PII, it is just a big lost of competition in the market. I just personnally doubt that AMD would reaslese such a bad CPU. And here is the top of the top 8150, that means the 4,6 cores are worst?
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