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post #91 of 213
Yeah so basically bulldozer 8150 is just a phenom 2 x8..

I think I'll keep my 955 till the next gen, it's still capable of running the latest games.
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lab501 is one of the best teams on hwbot
they do not publish trash...this review is absolutely credible

Bulldozer is a failure... this is the hard truth
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lab501 is one of the best teams on hwbot
they do not publish trash...this review is absolutely credible

Bulldozer is a failure... this is the hard truth
Im still waiting for RELEASE to decide whether it is or not. I dont care how good they are.
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Last warning; stay on topic. This isn't about lab501's credibility or who's with them, it's about the preview they published.
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lab501 is one of the best teams on hwbot
they do not publish trash...this review is absolutely credible

Bulldozer is a failure... this is the hard truth
why hide the cpu in the pics then???


how did they get a cpu without signing an nda ...


why do all the results ressemble obr's results wich chew* told us were totally trash .. and chew* had experience with engi sample cpu and retail cpu ...
Edited by Fr0sty - 10/9/11 at 3:23am
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We won't be able to put this to rest until later this week.
There is no point in arguing until then.
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Last warning; stay on topic. This isn't about lab501's credibility or who's with them, it's about the preview they published.


You have made it quite clear throughout the thread that this is not official, consequently, people are trying to show that lab501, is, indeed, a reputable source. By enforcing this new policy on OCN, anything that comes out before any official AMD statement is not credible, you are smearing websites with some weight in the IT world. This, in my view, is not very professional as it conveys a level of censorship which tries to show some sort of 'bulldozer damage limitation'. When lab501 was showing previews of monster GPUS that were not even out yet, people were happy and did not talk about the credibility. Their FERMI preview was spot on and the final product reflected what they said. The did not sign an NDA then either and censored all the vital data on the GPUs.


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why hide the cpu in the pics then???


how did they get a cpu without signing an nda ...

Are you that naive? You don't need to sign an NDA to have access to the latest thing. You need a wallet full of cash, how much did Engadget pay for the iPhone that got 'lost'? There is a simple reason for which any relevant information about the CPU is hidden : they do not want AMD to go on an APPLE spree and sue every party that got involved with this CPU.


In order for them to post this PREVIEW, they had to protect themselves. I am sorry to see that not even in the final hour, people do not realize that when a brand new architecture is finished you do not hide it like AMD. Intel showcased Conroe and attacked the FX not with slideshows but with benchmarks! AMD has done nothing of the sort because this CPU does not perform. You keep your customers by showing the monster power of the CPU not by using fancy colours in a slideshow and advertising this as a true octal-core cpu.

The corporate spies did their job and INTEL's reaction with IVY is understandable. They can afford further improvements to the architecture as AMD poses no threat.
 
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Are you that naive? You don't need to sign an NDA to have access to the latest thing. You need a wallet full of cash, how much did Engadget pay for the iPhone that got 'lost'? There is a simple reason for which any relevant information about the CPU is hidden : they do not want AMD to go on an APPLE spree and sue every party that got involved with this CPU.


In order for them to post this PREVIEW, they had to protect themselves. I am sorry to see that not even in the final hour, people do not realize that when a brand new architecture is finished you do not hide it like AMD. Intel showcased Conroe and attacked the FX not with slideshows but with benchmarks! AMD has done nothing of the sort because this CPU does not perform. You keep your customers by showing the monster power of the CPU not by using fancy colours in a slideshow and advertising this as a true octal-core cpu.

The corporate spies did their job and INTEL's reaction with IVY is understandable. They can afford further improvements to the architecture as AMD poses no threat.

you never even tried to argue about my other objection and only attacked one to wich could be taken in 100 ways ... good job ...
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I'll wait for Anandtech, Hexus, Techpowerup, etc. Official benchmarks from reputable sources. Not sketchy, unknown sources that need translated into English.

If gaming performance and video rendering is good, then great success.
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you never even tried to argue about my other objection and only attacked one to wich could be taken in 100 ways ... good job ...

You should ask yourself why people do not bother arguing your 'other objections'. You have made it clear since the first Bulldozer topic showed up on OCN that you are refusing to accept any opinion that does not agree with yours. You have been proven on so many occasions with numbers from websites from our OCN colleagues that your points do not stand, yet you counter them with your opinions which have no backup.

You and a few hardcore bulldozer fans, have become predictable. Whenever I see a Bulldozer thread, I know that if there is an argument, one of you is involved. I am interested in buying a Bulldozer rig, as someone in my family needs a good cheap solution for Photoshop, but everytime I want to get some information on Bulldozer, I have to sip through tens of pages of trash to get to the 2-3 objective posts!!


In a similar veins, the diehard INTEL fans are ruining the OCN experience. Instead of behaving like mature people, they bicker and argue for no reason like prom girls. What happened with civilized conversations and healthy debates??? All I see is personal attacks on the internetz! This is where the mods need to start hacking and slashing! This is the root of the problem!
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