Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › Graphics Cards - General › GTX570 vs HD6970 - Equal?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

GTX570 vs HD6970 - Equal? - Page 5

post #41 of 111
Quote:
Originally Posted by porky View Post
Errrr guys.....

you forgetting tesselation performance here?

As soon as you add tesselation DX11 AMD cards choke......I guess both cards have their cons...

a 570 is Vram limited.

a 6970 is about 100% slower in tesselation...NVIDIA leaves ati in the dust atm......

you decide!
This is the correct answer. In scenarios where neither apply, they're about the same performance wise. nVidia destroys in DX11, 6970 can pull ahead if VRAM is an issue.
Ivypascal
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 3570K, 4.6 GHz @ 1.29V Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H eVGA GTX1080 ACX SC 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Crucial M4SSD2 SATA III (128GB) Windows 10 Pro x64 Viewsonic XG2703-GS & Dell 24' 07WFPHC CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid, MX Red 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair HX850 Coolermaster HAF 932 Logitech G502 
  hide details  
Reply
Ivypascal
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 3570K, 4.6 GHz @ 1.29V Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H eVGA GTX1080 ACX SC 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Crucial M4SSD2 SATA III (128GB) Windows 10 Pro x64 Viewsonic XG2703-GS & Dell 24' 07WFPHC CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid, MX Red 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair HX850 Coolermaster HAF 932 Logitech G502 
  hide details  
Reply

Gear mentioned in this thread:

post #42 of 111
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZainyAntics View Post
Yes I made a thread about it.

Corsair sent me an SSD, H80, and a $400 check. ;]

Well done, Corsair.

Sent from my Inspire 4g using Tapatalk
post #43 of 111
Well, not only is the GTX 570 superior in tessellation, but it also overclocks 10% more than the 6970 (25% vs 10%). As for the VRAM, I can max any game at 1600p with two GTX 570s, so VRAM is definitely not an issue.
iMac 5k Late 2015
(11 items)
 
The Overlord
(25 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 6700K Custom Apple Motherboard AMD Radeon R9 M395X 4GB 16GB 1867Mhz DDR3 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
3TB Apple Fusion Drive 4TB WD Elements External Drive Mac OS X 5120‑by‑2880, 10-bit IPS 
KeyboardMouseAudio
Apple Magic Keyboard Apple Magic Trackpad 2, Razer Deathadder 2013 Bose Companion 2 Series iii 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 970 @ 4.4 Ghz Asus P6X58D-E EVGA GTX 680 SLI @ 1200Mhz 12GB Corsair DDR3 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 Pro SSD 2 * 1TB WD Black 5 * 2TB Hitachi LaCie 1TB External HDD 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG BD Combo Corsair H70 Windows 8 64-bit HP ZR30W (2560*1600) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech 920-000914 OCZ ZX 1250W CM 690 II Advanced Logitech G500 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Razer Goliathus Audez'e LCD-2 Schiit Lyr + NuForce HD DAC Blue Yeti Microphone 
AudioAudioOtherOther
Logitech G35 Altec Lansing 2.0 7 Scythe Ultra Kaze fans @ 3000rpm Scythe Kaze Fan controller 
Other
Logitech C900 Webcam 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core i5-6360U 1536MB Iris Graphics 540 8GB RAM 256GB SSD 
OSMonitor
Mac OS X 2560-by-1600 resolution IPS display 
  hide details  
Reply
iMac 5k Late 2015
(11 items)
 
The Overlord
(25 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 6700K Custom Apple Motherboard AMD Radeon R9 M395X 4GB 16GB 1867Mhz DDR3 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
3TB Apple Fusion Drive 4TB WD Elements External Drive Mac OS X 5120‑by‑2880, 10-bit IPS 
KeyboardMouseAudio
Apple Magic Keyboard Apple Magic Trackpad 2, Razer Deathadder 2013 Bose Companion 2 Series iii 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 970 @ 4.4 Ghz Asus P6X58D-E EVGA GTX 680 SLI @ 1200Mhz 12GB Corsair DDR3 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 Pro SSD 2 * 1TB WD Black 5 * 2TB Hitachi LaCie 1TB External HDD 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG BD Combo Corsair H70 Windows 8 64-bit HP ZR30W (2560*1600) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech 920-000914 OCZ ZX 1250W CM 690 II Advanced Logitech G500 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Razer Goliathus Audez'e LCD-2 Schiit Lyr + NuForce HD DAC Blue Yeti Microphone 
AudioAudioOtherOther
Logitech G35 Altec Lansing 2.0 7 Scythe Ultra Kaze fans @ 3000rpm Scythe Kaze Fan controller 
Other
Logitech C900 Webcam 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core i5-6360U 1536MB Iris Graphics 540 8GB RAM 256GB SSD 
OSMonitor
Mac OS X 2560-by-1600 resolution IPS display 
  hide details  
Reply
post #44 of 111
I have always loved ATI, but nvida has a lot of eye-candy!

they run cooler when they are under normal gamming load, and dont get hot, or noisy!

I also whent with 2x6850's 1GB just because I needed eyefinity!
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-950 MSI X58 Pro-E 2 x HD 4890's in CFx Mode Corsair Vengeance 12 GB Kit 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2 WD Black 640GB in Raid 0 Ausus BD ROM and Samsun DVD Burner Windows 7 x64 2 Samsung 22" 
PowerCase
Corsair 750w Cooler Master HAF 932 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-950 MSI X58 Pro-E 2 x HD 4890's in CFx Mode Corsair Vengeance 12 GB Kit 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2 WD Black 640GB in Raid 0 Ausus BD ROM and Samsun DVD Burner Windows 7 x64 2 Samsung 22" 
PowerCase
Corsair 750w Cooler Master HAF 932 
  hide details  
Reply
post #45 of 111
6970 Crossfire goes head-to-head with GTX580, not 570.

Proof? Every benchmarks I run with my 6970 Lightning in Crossfire or Tri-Fire, I'm head-to-head with highly OCed 580 SLI/Tri-SLI.

Not old benchmarks done 5 months ago with the CPU at 3.8. Real benchmarks with new drivers and CPU at 5.4.

BTW, I have 3X6970 rock-stable 24/7 at 1075/1475. SO they OC pretty well.
    
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
i7-5930k @ 4.9  i7-3930k @ 5.1 (2nd rig) Asus Rampage V (X99) + Asus Rampage IV (2nd rig) 2X Nvidia 1080 Ti SLI watercooled 
GraphicsRAMRAMHard Drive
2X Nvidia 980 Ti SLI watercooled (2nd rig)  4X8GB=32GB G.Skill DDR4-2700 4X4GB=16GB Ripjaws DDR3 2400 CL9 (2nd rig) 3X Samsung 840 Evo 1TB SSD 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 Pro 250GB 3XSeagate 3TB LG Blu-ray writer 2X Quad-120 MCR420 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2X Triple-120 MCR320 + 1X Triple-120 Feser 2X Dual-120 XSPC RX240 32 Gentle Typhoon fans (mix of 3000 and 1850rpm) Reservoir 2X Koolance RP-452x2 with 4X MCP655 p... 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
2X EK Supreme HF CPU waterblock Windows 10 Pro x64 Acer XB270HU IPS G-Sync 2440p (main rig) 3X 30'... CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro S MX blue switch, C... 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Antec HCP1200 + AX850 dual PSU main rig, AX120... Mountain Mods Extended Ascension + Pedestal 24 ... Logitech G502 x 2 PSB speakers 5.1 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
i7-5930k @ 4.9  i7-3930k @ 5.1 (2nd rig) Asus Rampage V (X99) + Asus Rampage IV (2nd rig) 2X Nvidia 1080 Ti SLI watercooled 
GraphicsRAMRAMHard Drive
2X Nvidia 980 Ti SLI watercooled (2nd rig)  4X8GB=32GB G.Skill DDR4-2700 4X4GB=16GB Ripjaws DDR3 2400 CL9 (2nd rig) 3X Samsung 840 Evo 1TB SSD 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 Pro 250GB 3XSeagate 3TB LG Blu-ray writer 2X Quad-120 MCR420 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2X Triple-120 MCR320 + 1X Triple-120 Feser 2X Dual-120 XSPC RX240 32 Gentle Typhoon fans (mix of 3000 and 1850rpm) Reservoir 2X Koolance RP-452x2 with 4X MCP655 p... 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
2X EK Supreme HF CPU waterblock Windows 10 Pro x64 Acer XB270HU IPS G-Sync 2440p (main rig) 3X 30'... CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro S MX blue switch, C... 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Antec HCP1200 + AX850 dual PSU main rig, AX120... Mountain Mods Extended Ascension + Pedestal 24 ... Logitech G502 x 2 PSB speakers 5.1 
  hide details  
Reply
post #46 of 111
Quote:
Originally Posted by Levesque View Post
6970 Crossfire goes head-to-head with GTX580, not 570.

Proof? Every benchmarks I run with my 6970 Lightning in Crossfire or Tri-Fire, I'm head-to-head with highly OCed 580 SLI/Tri-SLI.

Not old benchmarks done 5 months ago with the CPU at 3.8. Real benchmarks with new drivers and CPU at 5.4.

BTW, I have 3X6970 rock-stable 24/7 at 1075/1475. SO they OC pretty well.
In my view it's always the driver lag up everything. As soon ATI releases better driver it catches up. Most people will be convinced by the early benchmark and most review company will bench first regardless of the driver is stable or optimized. This is where they earn views and money to be the first on hand review of the product. ATI always late at delivering driver for it's latest model between 2-4 months.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
≡ Snowbaru ≡
(17 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 3930K 4.9Ghz Asus Sabertooth X79 EVGA GTX TITAN 1250Mhz KPE/Hybrid BIOS (SOLD) NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080 Ti Founder Edition 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
32GB Samsung 30nm 2400Mhz OCZ Vertex 4 Samsung 850 EVO 13000GB HDDs 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
EKWB Custom Watercooling, XSPC, Bitpower, Primo... Windows 10 Pro x64 (1607) ASUS PG278Q G-SYNC (2560x1440) Logitech G910 Onion Spark 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2 Gold Fractal Design Define S Logitech G502 Logitech G440 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Logitech G933 Xbox One Controller Asus RT-AC68U Hitron CDA3 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
Other
5HP 
  hide details  
Reply
 
≡ Snowbaru ≡
(17 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 3930K 4.9Ghz Asus Sabertooth X79 EVGA GTX TITAN 1250Mhz KPE/Hybrid BIOS (SOLD) NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080 Ti Founder Edition 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
32GB Samsung 30nm 2400Mhz OCZ Vertex 4 Samsung 850 EVO 13000GB HDDs 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
EKWB Custom Watercooling, XSPC, Bitpower, Primo... Windows 10 Pro x64 (1607) ASUS PG278Q G-SYNC (2560x1440) Logitech G910 Onion Spark 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2 Gold Fractal Design Define S Logitech G502 Logitech G440 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Logitech G933 Xbox One Controller Asus RT-AC68U Hitron CDA3 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
Other
5HP 
  hide details  
Reply
post #47 of 111
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigkahuna360 View Post
I think I touched down on most of the the comparisons?

EDIT: It didnt post it right
im sorry but right now, the driver support is better on the amd side than the nvidia side.
but if your wanting raw performance, they are basically equals as a single card. but when it comes to sli vs xfire, the 6970 will pull away from the 570 sli everyday of the week.
Sharkbait
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500k OC 4.6 Asrock p67 extreme 4 gen 3 Asus GTX 670 DirectCU ii top sli 16gb gskill ripsaw 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
3xWD RE4 2tb Crucial M4 128gb none Corsair h80 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit HP ZR30w 30" IPS Corsair vengeance k60 Corsair hx850 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Lian Li Lancool DragonLord K62R1 Corsair vengeance m60 Razor Large ASUS Xonar Essence STX 
  hide details  
Reply
Sharkbait
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500k OC 4.6 Asrock p67 extreme 4 gen 3 Asus GTX 670 DirectCU ii top sli 16gb gskill ripsaw 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
3xWD RE4 2tb Crucial M4 128gb none Corsair h80 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit HP ZR30w 30" IPS Corsair vengeance k60 Corsair hx850 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Lian Li Lancool DragonLord K62R1 Corsair vengeance m60 Razor Large ASUS Xonar Essence STX 
  hide details  
Reply
post #48 of 111
Quote:
Originally Posted by downlinx View Post
im sorry but right now, the driver support is better on the amd side than the nvidia side.
but if your wanting raw performance, they are basically equals as a single card. but when it comes to sli vs xfire, the 6970 will pull away from the 570 sli everyday of the week.
Maybe getting better but not better. =D


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
≡ Snowbaru ≡
(17 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 3930K 4.9Ghz Asus Sabertooth X79 EVGA GTX TITAN 1250Mhz KPE/Hybrid BIOS (SOLD) NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080 Ti Founder Edition 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
32GB Samsung 30nm 2400Mhz OCZ Vertex 4 Samsung 850 EVO 13000GB HDDs 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
EKWB Custom Watercooling, XSPC, Bitpower, Primo... Windows 10 Pro x64 (1607) ASUS PG278Q G-SYNC (2560x1440) Logitech G910 Onion Spark 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2 Gold Fractal Design Define S Logitech G502 Logitech G440 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Logitech G933 Xbox One Controller Asus RT-AC68U Hitron CDA3 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
Other
5HP 
  hide details  
Reply
 
≡ Snowbaru ≡
(17 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 3930K 4.9Ghz Asus Sabertooth X79 EVGA GTX TITAN 1250Mhz KPE/Hybrid BIOS (SOLD) NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080 Ti Founder Edition 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
32GB Samsung 30nm 2400Mhz OCZ Vertex 4 Samsung 850 EVO 13000GB HDDs 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
EKWB Custom Watercooling, XSPC, Bitpower, Primo... Windows 10 Pro x64 (1607) ASUS PG278Q G-SYNC (2560x1440) Logitech G910 Onion Spark 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2 Gold Fractal Design Define S Logitech G502 Logitech G440 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Logitech G933 Xbox One Controller Asus RT-AC68U Hitron CDA3 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
5HP 5HP 5HP 5HP 
Other
5HP 
  hide details  
Reply
post #49 of 111
@leavesque

Please run :

Crysis 2
Lost Planet 2
Uniheaven benchmark
Tessmark

and compare your scores to nvidia hardware....

last week I bought 2x 6970's ...expecting to destroy every game out there....wile it performs fantastically with most games...as soon as I bump up tesselation my system dies a painfull death.....I just PRAY that battlefield 3 wont suffer the same fate....
Edited by porky - 10/11/11 at 6:38am
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4790K 4.8GHZ 1.35V MSI Z97 M-Power EVGA GTX 980 Superclocked 16GB Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
4x1TB 7,200RPM , 1x128GB Samsung SSD 1x 128GB K... Windows 7 64Bit Ultimate Samsung SA950D+ Optoma HD82 Antec 1000W Platinum 
CaseMouse
NZXT Phantom Logitech G7 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4790K 4.8GHZ 1.35V MSI Z97 M-Power EVGA GTX 980 Superclocked 16GB Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
4x1TB 7,200RPM , 1x128GB Samsung SSD 1x 128GB K... Windows 7 64Bit Ultimate Samsung SA950D+ Optoma HD82 Antec 1000W Platinum 
CaseMouse
NZXT Phantom Logitech G7 
  hide details  
Reply
post #50 of 111
Quote:
Originally Posted by porky View Post
@leavesque

Please run :

Crysis 2
Lost Planet 2
Uniheaven benchmark
Tessmark

and compare your scores to nvidia hardware....

last week I bought 2x 6970's ...expecting to destroy every game out there....wile it performs fantastically with most games...as soon as I bump up tesselation my system dies a painfull death.....I just PRAY that battlefield 3 wont suffer the same fate....
Just ran Heaven:
82.3fps
Score: 2072

Crysis 2 and Lost Planet runs a better on Nvidia by default, whether Tesselation is enabled or not.
Tessmark? Why? It's a synthetic benchmark to prove how the 400 and 500-series can dedicate all their computing power to tesselation while AMD has hardware fixed-function units. In games where tesselation is moderately used, it should actually provide a performance boost.
Main rig
(21 items)
 
Alienware M14x
(11 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-2600k P8Z68-V PRO 2x HD 7970 16GB 1600 MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
180GB SSD 2TB Green spinpoint F3 1TB EK Supreme HF 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
MCP355 2x Coolgate 240mm XSPC Dual-bay res Scythe Gentle Typhoon 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
2x EK-FC7970 Windows 7 XL2410T Qpad MK-80 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair AX850 Corsair C70 Arctic White Steelseries Xai ASUS Xonar DX 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7-3720QM Alienware M14x motherboard Nvidia Geforce GT 650M Intel HD Graphics 4000 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
6GB 1600MHz CL11 Seagate momentus 500GB 7200RPM DVD Alienwarer M14x leafblower 
OSMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 Home Premium 1600x900 Alienware bling 
  hide details  
Reply
Main rig
(21 items)
 
Alienware M14x
(11 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-2600k P8Z68-V PRO 2x HD 7970 16GB 1600 MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
180GB SSD 2TB Green spinpoint F3 1TB EK Supreme HF 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
MCP355 2x Coolgate 240mm XSPC Dual-bay res Scythe Gentle Typhoon 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
2x EK-FC7970 Windows 7 XL2410T Qpad MK-80 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair AX850 Corsair C70 Arctic White Steelseries Xai ASUS Xonar DX 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7-3720QM Alienware M14x motherboard Nvidia Geforce GT 650M Intel HD Graphics 4000 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
6GB 1600MHz CL11 Seagate momentus 500GB 7200RPM DVD Alienwarer M14x leafblower 
OSMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 Home Premium 1600x900 Alienware bling 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Graphics Cards - General

Gear mentioned in this thread:

Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › Graphics Cards - General › GTX570 vs HD6970 - Equal?