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Originally Posted by BlackVenom View Post
A; the 560Ti is a good amount better. However, if you want to talk in the 560Ti's price range, go with the 6950. B; It's AMD HD6870, or just 6870. ATI is no longer. : )


Um.. look at the title?

"GTX 560 TI or ATI 6870?"
Um... read the thread, he has been talking about the GTX 560 (non TI) and the 6870....
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post


53 - 48 = 5.

So yes, that's 5% difference.
If you have "Card A" that is 1% of the speed of a GTX580 and "Card B" that have %2 of the GTX580 speed. It means that Card B is twice as powerful as card A "not %1 more powerful".

Another example, look at the previous graph, you want to tell me that a GT430 is only %7 faster than HD5450??
Its not, the GT430 is %240 faster than HD5450.
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No....here is a review with older AMD drivers.



How do you get 10 percent?

These are percent values not actual numeric values like 100 fps. You don't find percentages of percentages.

The 6870 is 95 percent of the 560 Ti (which is at 100 percent). Hence, the 6870 is 5 percent slower than the 560 Ti.
In the first graph you posted the GTX560TI was %10 faster than HD6870, not %5.

Lets go back to that graph.

GTX590 was %100.
GTX560TI was %53.
HD6870 was %48.

Lets suppose that GTX590 scored 100 fps in a certain game.
That means GTX560TI will get 53fps, while HD6870 will get 48fps.

Therefore a GTX560TI is faster than HD6870 by 5 fps.

5 fps faster does not mean %5 faster, it means that it is 5/48 faster than HD6870 (%10.4 faster).

If you didn't understand that I have nothing else to say other than advice you to go to a statistics teacher to explain that to you.
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Explain why the 2nd graph showed the same differential between the 6870 and 560 Ti. Both graphs ran the same games.

I understand what you are trying to say. However why does the data conflict?

For example in this game, BF:BC2 at 1920x1200, there is a 9.6 percent differential between 560 TI and 6870.



Then in this game, there is a 5.6 percent differential.



I think the TechPowerUp percentage graphs are incorrect since there is such a discrepancy between the two TechPowerUp graphs. For some reason, I always remember the 2nd graph showing the 6870 as 95 percent of the 560 Ti. That was why I asserted the 5 percent difference. However, the data does not support the 5 percent difference.
Edited by Riou - 10/9/11 at 10:32am
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Explain why the 2nd graph showed the same differential between the 6870 and 560 Ti. Both graphs ran the same games.

I understand what you are trying to say. However why does the data conflict?

For example in this game, BF:BC2 at 1920x1200, there is a 9.6 percent differential between 560 TI and 6870.



Then in this game, there is a 5.6 percent differential.



I think the TechPowerUp percentage graphs are incorrect since there is such a discrepancy between the two TechPowerUp graphs. For some reason, I always remember the 2nd graph showing the 6870 as 95 percent of the 560 Ti. That was why I asserted the 5 percent difference. However, the data does not support the 5 percent difference.
First review (GTX590):- 13 games + 3DMark 11 + Unigine Heaven 2.0.
Second review (GTX560TI):- 16 games + 3DMark 03 + 3DMark 05 + 3DMark 06 + Unigine Heaven 2.0.

This is why there is a difference between the two results.

As for the AnandTech benches, for the first graph you can say that the HD6870 has %90.4 the performance of a GTX560TI (%9.6 slower) or the GTX560TI has %110.4 the performance of the HD6870 (%10.4 faster).
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560ti ftw.
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What's the obsession with the HD 6870? It's not much better than a regular 460, much less a 560 Ti or even a regular 560.

When both the HD 6870 and GTX 460 are overclocked, they have almost identical performance. The 560s (both Ti and non-Ti) clock higher than the 460.

Notice at the most relevant benchmark, 1920x1080 with 4X AA, the 460 is equal in performance with the 6870.

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I remember an old thread comparing my GTX 460 1GB's in SLI and another person's HD 6870's in xfire, and overclocked it to the highest point it would go to run a single benchmark, and I beat everyone except one guy with an insane overclock by 32 points. I believe SLI and xfire scaling were pretty close, so I'd have to go with the GTX 560ti... but the prices on the 6870's have been pretty good lately.
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A GTX 560 = AMD 6870
A GTX 560Ti = AMD 6950

These cards compare on par with each other. Trade blows back and forth and where one wins the other is very close behind. Nothing noteworthy.

Choose what you like for your kids budget. Choose either, as your going to be happy with the performance and pricing you can afford. No wrong choice, only opinions.

Depends on mother board also a consideration as sometimes it might be limited to either to solely an Nvidia or AMD card. Some mobo's won't allow one or the other.

Some AMD boards that allow a single Nvidia card don't allow SLI and vice versa some Intel mobo's that allow a single AMD card don't allow crossfire.

The mother board you choose may make your decision for you.
     
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