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The last few posts were by TheRealMixup who has only posted in this thread. flegg who agrees with him only has one post. Might be a possible chance were talking about a different twitch, but the one I'm seeing in the video is rather common. As it allows for less reaction time.

Doesn't prove you're good at spotting hackers at all. Anyone who were to actually be good at spotting a cheater would thoroughly go through the demo. I've worked with many CAL/CEVO admins throughout my competitive gaming scene. The video proves absolutely nothing, as its nothing more than what your current average ESEA-IM player could do.
It's totally cool man, most people can't see the subtle twitch. Good players people don't twitch like that. As I said before, the only people that might are people with movement disorders, however, they could never play an FPS because of their uncontrollable movements.
The twitches are too fast and the motion is so small and consistent that, I believe, there's no way a human could replicate it.

Now keep in mind, I'm not some kid that will automatically call hax if someone is genuinely better than me. In Valve games, I would sit and observe them for quite a while before I'd make any sort of claim. That's why I said that it's hard to call from the video as it's edited together and doesn't show extended gameplay; coupled with low frame rates, makes it even that much more difficult.

And for those of you that are posting these silly hack video's, those are noob haxorz that have everything on and don't even try to hide the fact that they're cheating. As I described in more detail earlier, you can set it so it's only a 3* field of view. Some of them won't lock on until you toggle it and the person has to actually fire. Most common hack though, wallz.
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He's not hacking. I draw upon my 2300+ TF2 hours for that conclusion, and I can out snipe most people. All I see here is a decent sniper with too high of sensitivity.

When someone gets good at their settings, they can do the 'snap' with muscle memory all by themselves. This guy is missing too many easy shots (i.e. the player isn't moving) to be aimbotting.

Also, everyone has good days sniping. I've had some days where I couldn't miss. I've been accused of hacking plenty of times. This guy isn't hacking and if he is, who cares? He's not better than any other half decent sniper.
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He's not hacking. I draw upon my 2300+ TF2 hours for that conclusion, and I can out snipe most people. All I see here is a decent sniper with too high of sensitivity.

When someone gets good at their settings, they can do the 'snap' with muscle memory all by themselves. This guy is missing too many easy shots (i.e. the player isn't moving) to be aimbotting.

Also, everyone has good days sniping. I've had some days where I couldn't miss. I've been accused of hacking plenty of times. This guy isn't hacking and if he is, who cares? He's not better than any other half decent sniper.
For what it's worth, a few posts back the guy came on here and readily admitted he was hacking.

EDIT: I was the same way with CS/CSS. I used to play exclusively on AWP servers and got really good at it. I have been accused and banned because the people thought I was cheating. I don't cheat, and never will. What's the point of even playing?
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Not cheating. I can pull off shots like that. People can do it. That pro video was sick
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TF2 sniping isnt hard like the op says. You've never met a good pc gamer obviously.
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For what it's worth, a few posts back the guy came on here and readily admitted he was hacking.

EDIT: I was the same way with CS/CSS. I used to play exclusively on AWP servers and got really good at it. I have been accused and banned because the people thought I was cheating. I don't cheat, and never will. What's the point of even playing?
Yeah, I should have clarified. I shouldn't have said he 'wasn't hacking' as much as even if he were, it wasn't anything amazing at all. Not that it makes hacking okay (it doesn't, hacking is really lame) but it isn't like a wall/speed/knife hack where you die right when you spawn.

Honestly, hacking in TF2 never made much sense to me. The game is very 'predictable' and easy to pick up and get good at. CS:S, however, I wouldn't feel bad at hacking in just to watch people rage... (because I'm terrible).
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Check out how he moves, switches his weapon constantly, checks corners. These are things that people who've played a lot do. He also misses shots and doesn't really twitch unnaturally.

Most cheaters get lots of kills but play the game abysmally.

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For what it's worth, a few posts back the guy came on here and readily admitted he was hacking.
Ah, well, then he is probably a mediocre player (or good?) that isn't happy with how he plays. Or just someone who doesn't care about fair competition, etc.

Cheating is highschool.

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at. CS:S, however, I wouldn't feel bad at hacking in just to watch people rage... (because I'm terrible).
Being good at TF2 doesn't make hacking it lame any more than being bad at CS:S would make it cool.

Not that I think you actually would.
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Yeah, I should have clarified. I shouldn't have said he 'wasn't hacking' as much as even if he were, it wasn't anything amazing at all. Not that it makes hacking okay (it doesn't, hacking is really lame) but it isn't like a wall/speed/knife hack where you die right when you spawn.

Honestly, hacking in TF2 never made much sense to me. The game is very 'predictable' and easy to pick up and get good at. CS:S, however, I wouldn't feel bad at hacking in just to watch people rage... (because I'm terrible).
Most of the valve games are fairly easy to pick up. The learning curve for CS/CSS is much higher simply due to the fact it's been out so long and people have been playing it for a very long time.

As for hacking is CS/CSS, there's ways to foil even the aimbots, however, you need willing participants that don't mind their K/D ratio going in the toilet.
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Check out how he moves, switches his weapon constantly, checks corners. These are things that people who've played a lot do. He also misses shots and doesn't really twitch unnaturally.

Most cheaters get lots of kills but play the game abysmally.



Ah, well, then he is probably a mediocre player (or good?) that isn't happy with how he plays. Or just someone who doesn't care about fair competition, etc.

Cheating is highschool.



Being good at TF2 doesn't make hacking it lame any more than being bad at CS:S would make it cool.

Not that I think you actually would.
I've found that most people that cheat are usually really bad. Hence they need the hax just to be even remotely competitive. Basically, they take a mediocre player and make them look good.

NOTE: The twitch I'm talking about is almost constant, it is VERY subtle, you almost don't notice it. If you look closely, his crosshairs ever so slightly move side to side rather quickly, but the motion is miniscule. However, it is constant. It does not stop. It indicates to me that it's not an actual person doing the motion.
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Being good at TF2 doesn't make hacking it lame any more than being bad at CS:S would make it cool.

Not that I think you actually would.
Haha, I know. Personally, the game mechanics make TF2 much easier to pick up that CS:S (which is one of CS:S player's gripes about it...). So for a player who has only played for 20 hours in both games, the TF2 player could already be good enough to get a 1:1 K: D. CS:S, not gonna happen (in general).

I only 'hack' in SP games when I have beat them too many times to have any fun.
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