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I do alot of video editing, all at 1080i HD. I just recently did a wedding with three cameras...all told I have 6 hours of HD footage to store. I have an Alienware M15X that I do all my editing on because I don't own a powerful desktop... I also have a weaker desktop attached to the network wirelessly. So here's my question:

So I have a 500GB USB 3.0 hard drive, and the desktop is equipped with 3.0 ports. I am absolutely blown away by the data transfer speed of this joker. The card I bought has 4 ports on it. So should I invest the $$$ in a RAID setup? USB 3.0 external drives are just so cheap that it seems to be a far more economical solution... Because it would have to be network attached storage. My laptop obviously has no PCI slots, so a RAID card for it is out of the question. Yet...I need to get the video files to it so that I can edit them there.

In summary, does RAID make sense over a network as far as data transfer speeds, or would USB 3.0 drives attached to the desktop make more sense? TIA! smile.gif

EDIT: I'm considering four of these.
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RAID, then you have parity, also I would strongly recommend a better desktop
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Originally Posted by rdrdrdrd;15235017 
RAID, then you have parity, also I would strongly recommend a better desktop

I'm very limited in my financial resources...I already (stupidly) dropped 3 grand on the Alienware... doh.gif

Is there RAID for USB 3.0 drives? thinking.gif

What about this?
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if one of your USB drives fails then you loose the data, the main advantage of raid is that if a drive fails you loose nothing, just put 3 F3s in RAID 5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coachmark2;15235042 
I'm very limited in my financial resources...I already (stupidly) dropped 3 grand on the Alienware... doh.gif

Is there RAID for USB 3.0 drives? thinking.gif

What about this?

That is just a 4-port USB 3.0 card, it does not do RAID. However, you could use software RAID 1 in Windows to create a redundant RAID array with two USB 3.0 drives.

Personally, I would invest in a budget file server box running RAID 5, and connect it via GigE. Slower than USB 3.0, but RAID 5 would be more resilient in terms of handling failure.
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Alright then. Thanks for your help everyone. Last question: Is software RAID any good? If so, which program is the best? Would you go with RAID 1+0? Or RAID 5? The array would hypothetically be four drives. Thanks.
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software raid on board (activated in bios) is alright from my experience, but RAID 5 would be better for storage as you have the same fault tolerance but more capacity and speed is not a priority
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@OP

Software RAID in the Linux and UNIX world benefits from excellent implementations. Software RAID on Windows is OK for RAID levels 0, 1 and 10 and the same applies to the fakeRAID used in motherboard BIOS implementations.

For parity-based RAID (levels 4, 5 and 6) in the Windows world, the only sensible choice is a hardware RAID card.
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Originally Posted by parityboy;15260726 
@OP

Software RAID in the Linux and UNIX world benefits from excellent implementations. Software RAID on Windows is OK for RAID levels 0, 1 and 10 and the same applies to the fakeRAID used in motherboard BIOS implementations.

For parity-based RAID (levels 4, 5 and 6) in the Windows world, the only sensible choice is a hardware RAID card.

thanks for the help! Can you recommend an affordable card? I'm clueless when it comes to who makes the "best" RAID controller...
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My personal choice would be a Dell PERC 6/i off eBay. It's basically a $700 RAID card for ~$100. You won't get better for the money. However, you may have to cover pins 5 & 6 to disable SMBus signals; it's an easy mod, and you might not even have to do it.

If you want to avoid that, and you want a zero-hassle RAID card, look at brands such as LSI 9240-4i, or the Areca ARC1220. Have a look here for other Areca cards.
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