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Sadly, I just decommissioned my Surround setup last night. I've grown tired of some of the issues (personal and technical), and finally couldn't take it anymore; so I reverted back to a single 24" 1920x1200 monitor, and man is it small. Not only that, but I'm left with a setup that is immensely overkill for practically anything, which is not all that bad, but it's also a big waste at the same time.

Currently, I am looking to replace my single 24" monitor with a 30". So the main concern is, how are dual 580's for 2560x1600? I'm conflicted about the performance because I'm thinking of selling one of my 580's to subsidize the cost of this monitor. Compared to the 6.9MP resolution I was using in Surround, 4MP for the 30" monitor seems considerably easier to drive, but I've been going back and forth checking reviews and benchmarks in trying to figure out if it is even worthwhile to keep the third card.

This is one of the few reviews that actually show a comparison between two-way and three-way SLI; in some games there is an improvement, but not for others:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...y-sli-review/1

However, the article was released right around the initial release of the 500 series, so I'm not sure how much better Tri-SLI has become at that resolution with today's drivers. I would assume there are good improvements overall as witnessed in my Surround experience, but again there is the resolution discrepancy. So far, I'm at an impasse.

Lastly, I've got my eye, particularly, on the HP ZR30W. But before I commit to such a large purchase, does anyone have any thoughts on 30" LCD's in general or some other alternatives to the HP?

Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
     
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Might have to go pre-owned or re-certified to get something for less than $1k. I myself have been thinking of this but I have narrowed down my main concern as the monitor stand. But I wouldn't mind selling my screens and getting maybe a 50" lcd , costs about the same as a new 30" monitor (though the monitor will have a superior pic). I think one 580 would be able to run 2560x1600 but I would stick to sli for the extra boost in performance.
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Might have to go pre-owned or re-certified to get something for less than $1k. I myself have been thinking of this but I have narrowed down my main concern as the monitor stand. But I wouldn't mind selling my screens and getting maybe a 50" lcd , costs about the same as a new 30" monitor (though the monitor will have a superior pic). I think one 580 would be able to run 2560x1600 but I would stick to sli for the extra boost in performance.
Yeah, I thought it was the stand for me as well. I was prepared to buy an Ergotech, but it slowly became all the other little things.

I resume from sleep mode all the time, and the most annoying part is having one or two monitors show no display. EVGA and Nvidia are actually aware of the issue, and I have worked with some of the EVGA staff in the past in trying to flash older firmware, and even going by their recommendation of trying newer drivers. It may work temporarily, but it always comes back eventually, and happens so randomly at that.

The the other issue for me are the bezels themselves. Unfortunately, mine are too thick even after removing the plastic pieces; and due to the construction of the NEC's, when put together, there are two screws on each side that touch and form a gap between each monitor. So because the distance is so wide, if I use bezel correction, it does help, but I lose out on information within the bezel gap while further driving up the resolution overhead.

Ultimately, the heat, power draw, and amount of cables just put me over the edge.

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It's funny, though, my girlfriend said the same thing about just buying a bigger TV for less money. She actually laughed so hard when she first came home last night to see the downgrade. All she kept saying was, "It's so small!" "It's not the size that counts, it's how you use it!" But I digress.

I did think about it myself, though, but in the end, once you go to a larger resolution, it's really hard to go back down again. And you're absolutely right about the pricetag - when I wasn't looking for one, I routinely found used Dell 3007's in the $400-$600 price range, but now that I am looking, they are nowhere to be found. Everything is in the $800's and higher!
     
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i dropped dual view in favor of a single 37" plasma TV.. 1080p with 3D capabilities.. and cheap too. Just not 120hz
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i dropped dual view in favor of a single 37" plasma TV.. 1080p with 3D capabilities.. and cheap too. Just not 120hz
Haha, TV's are certainly tempting for their price range.
     
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Well, if you were happy with your surround performance, pushing a 2560x res screen should be cake. But with a lot of high end IPS panels like that HP, you'll wind up paying for features (high bit depth, aRGB support etc) you don't need for casual use/gaming.

IMO a good alternative are Hazro's new IPS lineup.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hazro_hz27wa.htm

They're based around the same LG panel that's in the Dell U2711/U3011 and Apple Cinema Displays, but come to market a few hundred dollars cheaper. And according to the reviews, they have extremely low input lag which makes them even better for gaming.

The only snag is you have to import them from the UK, but they can be ordered directly from their site.

As far as keeping the 3rd 580 is concerned, I really can't say since I don't have experience with 3-way configs, but more powa is always a good thing, right?
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30" 1600p > 5760x1080 - SLI 580's should easily handle 2560x1600, as I'm running the same res and I'm on a single 6970.

But what's really awesome (what I'm getting ready to do) is having 3x30" monitors at 7680x1600.

Edit: And if you truly want the best 30" IPS monitor period, get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824002579

Otherwise, the Dell U3011 would be my top choice.
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Well, if you were happy with your surround performance, pushing a 2560x res screen should be cake. But with a lot of high end IPS panels like that HP, you'll wind up paying for features (high bit depth, aRGB support etc) you don't need for casual use/gaming.

IMO a good alternative are Hazro's new IPS lineup.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hazro_hz27wa.htm

They're based around the same LG panel that's in the Dell U2711/U3011 and Apple Cinema Displays, but come to market a few hundred dollars cheaper. And according to the reviews, they have extremely low input lag which makes them even better for gaming.

The only snag is you have to import them from the UK, but they can be ordered directly from their site.

As far as keeping the 3rd 580 is concerned, I really can't say since I don't have experience with 3-way configs, but more powa is always a good thing, right?
Exactly what I was looking for: options! Thank you!

It seems like they will translate to a little over $1000, which is not bad at all in this range for a new monitor. My only concern would be how they handle RMA's if I get a dud or one with pixel issues.

In reading over your link, it looks like they are just releasing two new 27" models. Do you know if a new 30" release, similar to the HZ27WA, is imminent? It's personal preference, but I really do like to get as much vertical space as possible - the same reason why I chose Portrait over Landscape mode in Surround.

Yeah, the main reason I was looking at the HP was that it had the lowest level of input lag in this current generation, but if the Hazro's are similar while being cheaper then it makes it all the more compelling.

As far as keeping the third card, yeah, I'm still on the fence about that. But yes, more power is always a good thing!

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30" 1600p > 5760x1080 - SLI 580's should easily handle 2560x1600, as I'm running the same res and I'm on a single 6970.

But what's really awesome (what I'm getting ready to do) is having 3x30" monitors at 7680x1600.

Edit: And if you truly want the best 30" IPS monitor period, get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824002579

Otherwise, the Dell U3011 would be my top choice.
Good to know about the performance with even a single 6970! Although I can't imagine jumping back into Surround, let alone with three 30" monitors! That's way too rich for my blood, lol.

And DAYUM! NEC doesn't play around with their pricing at all!

By the way, how do you feel about the U3011 and the input lag? There is one available at the Micro Center in my state and I was toying with the idea of picking it up and giving it a go. At least with MC, I can exchange or return it hassle free if I end up not liking it.
     
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My single 580 actually does surprisingly well at 2560x1600. I play basically every game at max still and even the BF3 beta I play at a mix of ultra/high with great fps. I do plan on getting another 580 just because, but one 580 will certainly suffice for gaming on a 30.

PS: 30's are the way to go man, I had eyefinity before and it doesn't compare to a 30. You won't regret the transition.

edit: Input lag on the U3011 isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I went from a 5ms 24" to this 3011 and can't tell a bit of difference.
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Might have to go pre-owned or re-certified to get something for less than $1k. I myself have been thinking of this but I have narrowed down my main concern as the monitor stand. But I wouldn't mind selling my screens and getting maybe a 50" lcd , costs about the same as a new 30" monitor (though the monitor will have a superior pic). I think one 580 would be able to run 2560x1600 but I would stick to sli for the extra boost in performance.
Hi mate, curious what made you decide portrait mode on smaller 23ins screens? Sort of thing you'd expect to see on 26ins+ in my experience.
 
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