Overclock.net › Forums › Intel › Intel CPUs › Ivy Bridge Discussion/News thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Ivy Bridge Discussion/News thread - Page 114  

Poll Results: What are you getting?

 
  • 23% (83)
    Sandy Bridge-E
  • 62% (221)
    Ivy Bridge
  • 14% (52)
    Haswell or future
356 Total Votes  
post #1131 of 1172
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse D View Post

I could be wrong, but so far all I have seen is a couple people that de-lided their chips and did not apply sufficient pressure to account for the lack of IHS. Basically that means nothing as the increased amount of TIM to bridge the gap puts us back to the same situation of two layers of TIM.
As I said I could be wrong, if you have a link to someone who properly applied a HS to the chip please post it.
Ah, a voice of reason.

First, there is no TIM that can replace the sandy bridge solder and maintain the same efficiencies in transmitting heat off the chip surface to the cooling system. So unless someone has actually applied solder to an IB chip properly, nobody has proven anything in comparison to what could be had with solder.

Second, maybe you can still improve the cooling by removing the Intel IHS TIM, but applying a heat sink directly to a de-lidded IB with the correct amount of pressure will likely require a custom made interface (with properly-spaced internal screws/mechanism designed to put an even pressure across the face of the chip) or shims of the exact same density of the chip. The mounting holes in motherboards are not properly spaced. Good luck. doh.gif

As it is now, your passive external cooling systems can only extract as much heat as the IHS removes from the chip.
post #1132 of 1172
Quote:
Originally Posted by alancsalt View Post

OK NoG, I'll bite. What is that stuff?
It's called Dragon Skin. It is two parts liquid Silicon that when mixed together make a nice rubber layer on the board that is air tight. It's what a lot of Halloween Masks are made of.
Kind of like a rubber band it will pull off in one stretchy piece and the board will remain basically brand new. I leave it on if I am using LN2 or Air.
450

And my NoG Sandwich biggrin.gif Roast beef, chicken, Ham, and Munster cheese.
450
The HedgeHog
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770K Z77-UP7 MSI GTX 680 Twin 4 Gig G.Skill Trident X 2600's and some Dom's Hypers 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Yes, lots of them. LN2  The smallest one I can get! Samsung 2333 HD 23" 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corisar 1200 AX=1.21 jigawatts Fractal Design/Dimastech G5 Rocketfish 
  hide details  
The HedgeHog
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770K Z77-UP7 MSI GTX 680 Twin 4 Gig G.Skill Trident X 2600's and some Dom's Hypers 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Yes, lots of them. LN2  The smallest one I can get! Samsung 2333 HD 23" 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corisar 1200 AX=1.21 jigawatts Fractal Design/Dimastech G5 Rocketfish 
  hide details  
post #1133 of 1172
Nice samwich +rep

So the Dragon Skin stays on the board its whole life? Doesn't it insulate heat around the socket and VRM?
COMPUTER
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3570K Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H Gigabyte GTX 670 Windforce OC 2GB Samsung 30nm 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
WD Caviar Blue WD Caviar Black NZXT Havik 140 Windows 7 64bit 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8 64bit ASUS GD235HZ (GD245HQ) 120Hz Dell OCZ GameXStream 850W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Carbide 300R Logitech G9 naked Allsop Black Cloth (low profile) Logitech G35 Surround 
  hide details  
COMPUTER
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3570K Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H Gigabyte GTX 670 Windforce OC 2GB Samsung 30nm 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
WD Caviar Blue WD Caviar Black NZXT Havik 140 Windows 7 64bit 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8 64bit ASUS GD235HZ (GD245HQ) 120Hz Dell OCZ GameXStream 850W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Carbide 300R Logitech G9 naked Allsop Black Cloth (low profile) Logitech G35 Surround 
  hide details  
post #1134 of 1172
Quote:
Originally Posted by samwiches View Post

Nice samwich +rep
So the Dragon Skin stays on the board its whole life? Doesn't it insulate heat around the socket and VRM?
LOL, nice name!

Yeah it stays on forever, unless I want to sell the board and someone does not want it on. It may hold in a tiny bit of heat but not enough to make a difference.
This board will be mostly used for DICE/LN2 and some testing with H2O.
The HedgeHog
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770K Z77-UP7 MSI GTX 680 Twin 4 Gig G.Skill Trident X 2600's and some Dom's Hypers 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Yes, lots of them. LN2  The smallest one I can get! Samsung 2333 HD 23" 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corisar 1200 AX=1.21 jigawatts Fractal Design/Dimastech G5 Rocketfish 
  hide details  
The HedgeHog
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770K Z77-UP7 MSI GTX 680 Twin 4 Gig G.Skill Trident X 2600's and some Dom's Hypers 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Yes, lots of them. LN2  The smallest one I can get! Samsung 2333 HD 23" 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corisar 1200 AX=1.21 jigawatts Fractal Design/Dimastech G5 Rocketfish 
  hide details  
post #1135 of 1172
Any special prep or precautions with the socket latch?
Nyarlathotep
(17 items)
 
Hastur
(15 items)
 
Yog-Sothoth
(10 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3970X ASUS X79 ROG Rampage IV Extreme Bios 2105 EVGA KingPin Classified 780 Ti 3GB Tri-SLI  G.Skill Trident X F3-2400C10Q-16GTX 16GB (... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Vertex 4 SSD Seagate Barracuda 1TB ST31000524AS Lite-On IHAS124 24X DVDRW 3 x XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 Universal CPU Water Coo... 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
3 x EK-FC780 GTX Classy - Nickel Windows 7 Professional x64 3 x Dell U2412M SilverStone 1500W V2.2 x 2 
Case
Lian Li Pitstop T60 Testbench 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3930K RAMPAGE IV FORMULA Palit Sonic Platinum GTX 460 1GB 256 bit Palit Sonic Platinum GTX 460 1GB 256 bit 
RAMRAMHard DriveOptical Drive
G.SKILL Ripjaws Z F3-17000CL9Q G. 4 x Seagate Lite On 24x DVD RW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
XSPC RX360 x 2, Laing D5 pump, Rasa CPU block, ... Windows 7 Ultimate x64 BenQ XL2420T Logitech K120 
PowerCaseAudio
Corsair HX850 Corsair CM690-2 Altec Lansing ACS33 Speakers 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3960X Asus Rampage IV Extreme Gainward "GOOD" GTX 580 x 2 AData x 2 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Seagate XSPC Rasa EX 360 crossflow kit x 2, XSPC Rasa E... EK GW-580 Waterblocks Win 7 Pro 
PowerCase
SilverStone Strider ST1500 InWin D Frame 
  hide details  
Nyarlathotep
(17 items)
 
Hastur
(15 items)
 
Yog-Sothoth
(10 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3970X ASUS X79 ROG Rampage IV Extreme Bios 2105 EVGA KingPin Classified 780 Ti 3GB Tri-SLI  G.Skill Trident X F3-2400C10Q-16GTX 16GB (... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Vertex 4 SSD Seagate Barracuda 1TB ST31000524AS Lite-On IHAS124 24X DVDRW 3 x XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 Universal CPU Water Coo... 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
3 x EK-FC780 GTX Classy - Nickel Windows 7 Professional x64 3 x Dell U2412M SilverStone 1500W V2.2 x 2 
Case
Lian Li Pitstop T60 Testbench 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3930K RAMPAGE IV FORMULA Palit Sonic Platinum GTX 460 1GB 256 bit Palit Sonic Platinum GTX 460 1GB 256 bit 
RAMRAMHard DriveOptical Drive
G.SKILL Ripjaws Z F3-17000CL9Q G. 4 x Seagate Lite On 24x DVD RW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
XSPC RX360 x 2, Laing D5 pump, Rasa CPU block, ... Windows 7 Ultimate x64 BenQ XL2420T Logitech K120 
PowerCaseAudio
Corsair HX850 Corsair CM690-2 Altec Lansing ACS33 Speakers 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3960X Asus Rampage IV Extreme Gainward "GOOD" GTX 580 x 2 AData x 2 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Seagate XSPC Rasa EX 360 crossflow kit x 2, XSPC Rasa E... EK GW-580 Waterblocks Win 7 Pro 
PowerCase
SilverStone Strider ST1500 InWin D Frame 
  hide details  
post #1136 of 1172
Quote:
Originally Posted by alancsalt View Post

Any special prep or precautions with the socket latch?

Here you go buddy. wink.gif Some of it's common knowledge for someone like you but it helped me tremendously.

Only my second CPU dropped. I sweat like a pig over an open fire pit being cooked alive dropping into the socket. Had a friend help with the H100 mounting bracket installation I couldn't figure out. Went without a hitch.

post #1137 of 1172
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arizonian View Post

Here you go buddy. wink.gif Some of it's common knowledge for someone like you but it helped me tremendously.
Only my second CPU dropped. I sweat like a pig over an open fire pit being cooked alive dropping into the socket. Had a friend help with the H100 mounting bracket installation I couldn't figure out. Went without a hitch.

lol. I meant with the application of dragon skin for sub-zero...but thanks..
Nyarlathotep
(17 items)
 
Hastur
(15 items)
 
Yog-Sothoth
(10 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3970X ASUS X79 ROG Rampage IV Extreme Bios 2105 EVGA KingPin Classified 780 Ti 3GB Tri-SLI  G.Skill Trident X F3-2400C10Q-16GTX 16GB (... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Vertex 4 SSD Seagate Barracuda 1TB ST31000524AS Lite-On IHAS124 24X DVDRW 3 x XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 Universal CPU Water Coo... 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
3 x EK-FC780 GTX Classy - Nickel Windows 7 Professional x64 3 x Dell U2412M SilverStone 1500W V2.2 x 2 
Case
Lian Li Pitstop T60 Testbench 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3930K RAMPAGE IV FORMULA Palit Sonic Platinum GTX 460 1GB 256 bit Palit Sonic Platinum GTX 460 1GB 256 bit 
RAMRAMHard DriveOptical Drive
G.SKILL Ripjaws Z F3-17000CL9Q G. 4 x Seagate Lite On 24x DVD RW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
XSPC RX360 x 2, Laing D5 pump, Rasa CPU block, ... Windows 7 Ultimate x64 BenQ XL2420T Logitech K120 
PowerCaseAudio
Corsair HX850 Corsair CM690-2 Altec Lansing ACS33 Speakers 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3960X Asus Rampage IV Extreme Gainward "GOOD" GTX 580 x 2 AData x 2 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Seagate XSPC Rasa EX 360 crossflow kit x 2, XSPC Rasa E... EK GW-580 Waterblocks Win 7 Pro 
PowerCase
SilverStone Strider ST1500 InWin D Frame 
  hide details  
Nyarlathotep
(17 items)
 
Hastur
(15 items)
 
Yog-Sothoth
(10 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3970X ASUS X79 ROG Rampage IV Extreme Bios 2105 EVGA KingPin Classified 780 Ti 3GB Tri-SLI  G.Skill Trident X F3-2400C10Q-16GTX 16GB (... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
OCZ Vertex 4 SSD Seagate Barracuda 1TB ST31000524AS Lite-On IHAS124 24X DVDRW 3 x XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 Universal CPU Water Coo... 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
3 x EK-FC780 GTX Classy - Nickel Windows 7 Professional x64 3 x Dell U2412M SilverStone 1500W V2.2 x 2 
Case
Lian Li Pitstop T60 Testbench 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3930K RAMPAGE IV FORMULA Palit Sonic Platinum GTX 460 1GB 256 bit Palit Sonic Platinum GTX 460 1GB 256 bit 
RAMRAMHard DriveOptical Drive
G.SKILL Ripjaws Z F3-17000CL9Q G. 4 x Seagate Lite On 24x DVD RW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
XSPC RX360 x 2, Laing D5 pump, Rasa CPU block, ... Windows 7 Ultimate x64 BenQ XL2420T Logitech K120 
PowerCaseAudio
Corsair HX850 Corsair CM690-2 Altec Lansing ACS33 Speakers 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3960X Asus Rampage IV Extreme Gainward "GOOD" GTX 580 x 2 AData x 2 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Seagate XSPC Rasa EX 360 crossflow kit x 2, XSPC Rasa E... EK GW-580 Waterblocks Win 7 Pro 
PowerCase
SilverStone Strider ST1500 InWin D Frame 
  hide details  
post #1138 of 1172
Quote:
Originally Posted by alancsalt View Post

lol. I meant with the application of dragon skin for sub-zero...but thanks..

redface.gif
post #1139 of 1172
Quote:
Originally Posted by alancsalt View Post

lol. I meant with the application of dragon skin for sub-zero...but thanks..

Main thing is to have the cpu installed, you do not want to drip the dragon skin into the pins. Noguru has done it a few times, first time you are coating a board it's also a good idea to tape off the dimm slots, power connectors, etc. to make sure nothing gets inside them. On the back of the board I also use tiny bits of eraser to plug the little holes under the slots, had some dragon skin get into a dimm slot from underneath when insulating a board before & it's a nightmare trying to get it out, I ended up breaking one of the little gold contacts & killed the dimm.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 990x/3930k/3770k/4770k GB x58a-OC/Asus RIVE/x79 gd65/z77 mpower/z77 MV... gtx480s/gtx580s/7970s/680s/Titan Hyper/PSC/BBSE/Hynix/Samsung 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
HDDs/SSDs DVD Air/water/phase/copper pot Windowz 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
samsung 2320 Razer Lycosa ax1200 carboard box 
Mouse
Trackball 
  hide details  
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 990x/3930k/3770k/4770k GB x58a-OC/Asus RIVE/x79 gd65/z77 mpower/z77 MV... gtx480s/gtx580s/7970s/680s/Titan Hyper/PSC/BBSE/Hynix/Samsung 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
HDDs/SSDs DVD Air/water/phase/copper pot Windowz 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
samsung 2320 Razer Lycosa ax1200 carboard box 
Mouse
Trackball 
  hide details  
post #1140 of 1172
Quote:
Originally Posted by FtW 420 View Post

Main thing is to have the cpu installed, you do not want to drip the dragon skin into the pins. Noguru has done it a few times, first time you are coating a board it's also a good idea to tape off the dimm slots, power connectors, etc. to make sure nothing gets inside them. On the back of the board I also use tiny bits of eraser to plug the little holes under the slots, had some dragon skin get into a dimm slot from underneath when insulating a board before & it's a nightmare trying to get it out, I ended up breaking one of the little gold contacts & killed the dimm.
Yep, gotta tape off or I use eraser and just pour up to it. And like FTW said, if it gets somewhere you don't want it it very hard to get out because it's very strong and it's hard to cut.
I usually put mounting hardware in the area for the heatsink so it's easy to swap out hardware but I just put eraser in the holes this time and had to cut it out with an Xacto knife but it was not easy.
The HedgeHog
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770K Z77-UP7 MSI GTX 680 Twin 4 Gig G.Skill Trident X 2600's and some Dom's Hypers 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Yes, lots of them. LN2  The smallest one I can get! Samsung 2333 HD 23" 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corisar 1200 AX=1.21 jigawatts Fractal Design/Dimastech G5 Rocketfish 
  hide details  
The HedgeHog
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770K Z77-UP7 MSI GTX 680 Twin 4 Gig G.Skill Trident X 2600's and some Dom's Hypers 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Yes, lots of them. LN2  The smallest one I can get! Samsung 2333 HD 23" 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corisar 1200 AX=1.21 jigawatts Fractal Design/Dimastech G5 Rocketfish 
  hide details  
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Intel CPUs
This thread is locked  
Overclock.net › Forums › Intel › Intel CPUs › Ivy Bridge Discussion/News thread