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Alright... so currently I have my secondary drive as two RAID 0 drives hooked up to my motherboard (see sig rig).
  1. If I were to switch a motherboard for another one capable of RAID 0 would my current array and it's data be lost?
  2. If so, then would getting a RAID controller card prevent that from happening? For instance, if I were to take two RAID 0 drives on a conroller card and then place those drives and controller card in a new computer, would it operate the same? Would the RAID 0 and data still be there?

I ask these questions to see what will happen in the future should I want to change out the motherboard or the motherboard were to die. It would also be nice to be able to just take the array and put it in another computer if I were upgrading, etc.

What would I be looking for in a RAID controller card?
  • Absolute stability and quality.
  • Ability to take card and drives and plug it into another computer and have it recognzied just like you can with almost any singular drive.
  • Four Sata 3 ports that can do RAID 0, 1 and 5.

Thanks for the advice and education. I would like to learn more about the actual dealings with RAID, etc. This is my first computer I setup RAID on. While it was fairly easy (via hardware on Mobo), I hope to not into complications.

One last question...........

* When setting up an OS on an SSD and also using your secondary RAID drive for programs (via a guide here on OCN), how does one best make a backup recovery partition if the OS technically spans two drives (and just the OS)?
Edited by RoddimusPrime - 10/9/11 at 11:10am
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I'll try to shed some light on your situation.

I've personally never tried it...but usually you should be able to reuse the RAID array that is on one motherboard controller to another one. However, it's probably recommended to mimic what it was using before from the same maker, model, version, port, BIOS, etc. This will likely reduce some headaches that you may run into. That's usually why some people look into a dedicated controller where you can migrate the controller to another/any motherboard (so as long as the slot it's using is supported...PCI/PCI-E/PCI-X) where the data will still be readable and intact. That may also be its downfall because if a controller dies...you'll only be able to recover/read your data by getting another controller of the same make/model. Very expensive controller cards are usually built to last based on how much they cost (well...from my point of view) so if you're willing to buy two of the same controller based on how important your data is in case something happens then feel free to do so. Otherwise you should always continue to backup data since RAID continues to not being a backup solution to anything.

From my own personal opinion...I do not recommend getting a dedicated controller unless looking into more complex data redundancy from RAID-5, RAID-6, unRAID, flexRAID, etc. As the cost of your data will outweigh the cost of its redundancy you put it through. Ask anybody who would run that type of RAID where the data they have may be priceless to them from hours of saved work to years of cumulative data.

But if you still want to look for a dedicated controller then try to read up some recommended brands from long-term support and quality long lasting products. It's likely you'll end up spending around ~$200+ are brand new controllers so look around for some used ones or create a new post on some recommendations.

You can also try to message DuckieHo as he's often the expert in these types of topics (I've learned many things from him).

As for your last question...sorry to say I can't help you with that as Windows 7 wouldn't let me create a backup/clone of my partitions. I don't really care though since nothing is important on my OS partition other than some save files that I backup regularly.
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Corsair Dominator GT 6x4GB (24GB) Samsung 850 PRO 2TB 4x Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB (RAID-5) 6x Seagate Barracuda XT 3TB (RAID-6) 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Sans Digital TR8UT+B Enclosure 8x500GB (RAID-50) Sans Digital TR8UT+B Enclosure 8x1TB (RAID-50) LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray Burner Swiftech Apogee Drive II 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Swiftech MCR320 10x Sanyo Denki 9SG1212G101 (260CFM) 3x Sanyo Denki 9G1212G401 (130CFM) Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
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Cooler Master ATCS 840 (Modded) Logitech G700s Rechargeable Gaming Mouse XTracPads Ripper XXL Desktop Gaming Mat HT Omega Claro Plus+ 7.1 
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Originally Posted by pvp309rcp;15240249 
I'll try to shed some light on your situation.

I've personally never tried it...but usually you should be able to reuse the RAID array that is on one motherboard controller to another one. However, it's probably recommended to mimic what it was using before from the same maker, model, version, port, BIOS, etc. This will likely reduce some headaches that you may run into. That's usually why some people look into a dedicated controller where you can migrate the controller to another/any motherboard (so as long as the slot it's using is supported...PCI/PCI-E/PCI-X) where the data will still be readable and intact. That may also be its downfall because if a controller dies...you'll only be able to recover/read your data by getting another controller of the same make/model. Very expensive controller cards are usually built to last based on how much they cost (well...from my point of view) so if you're willing to buy two of the same controller based on how important your data is in case something happens then feel free to do so. Otherwise you should always continue to backup data since RAID continues to not being a backup solution to anything.

From my own personal opinion...I do not recommend getting a dedicated controller unless looking into more complex data redundancy from RAID-5, RAID-6, unRAID, flexRAID, etc. As the cost of your data will outweigh the cost of its redundancy you put it through. Ask anybody who would run that type of RAID where the data they have may be priceless to them from hours of saved work to years of cumulative data.

But if you still want to look for a dedicated controller then try to read up some recommended brands from long-term support and quality long lasting products. It's likely you'll end up spending around ~$200+ are brand new controllers so look around for some used ones or create a new post on some recommendations.

You can also try to message DuckieHo as he's often the expert in these types of topics (I've learned many things from him).

As for your last question...sorry to say I can't help you with that as Windows 7 wouldn't let me create a backup/clone of my partitions. I don't really care though since nothing is important on my OS partition other than some save files that I backup regularly.

Thanks for the feedback. Although what complicates this further is the fact I plan on using an SSD as a primary drive and the secondary drive for not only data, but some other programs. Essentially I am moving the program directories to the second drive when setting up the OS and thus could use the SSD or RAID 0 to install a program. In my situation I also have a backup drive. So I have two RAID 0 F3 1TB drives and a backup 2TB F4 drive so I can keep my data should the RAID Fail. However, if the RAID were to fail it will in effect mess up the OS as well. Also, if I ever decided to upgrade to a different motherboard it presents an issue. So I want to do a solution that is practical and as problem free as possible should something go wrong. Mind you, I am doing the RAID 0 to increase performance of any programs on that RAID. If it were pure data then a RAID wouldn't make sense. I plan to keep things like Adobe and Office on the SSD for increased performance. Of course any large files being stored on the RAID would increase in access and write times while in something like Photoshop.
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