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Originally Posted by Don Karnage View Post
Read it countless times. The only explanations are either:

1. Actual performance
2. JF stated that only final silicon will be release to ppl who sign NDA.

With #2 I know these guys have retail BD, but maybe they are missing a BIOS that won't, or can't, go live to the public until NDA is over. And yes I understand they are very respected members of the OCing community.
    
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Regardless of it being retail or not it was obviously not performing correctly. Like I said before some benches failed to even start, the load on the CPU was hardly ever 100%, clock speed were stuck at 2.8Ghz for the majority of the video, etc. How could you not expect it to perform better when things run smoothly as intended?
Clocks were bouncing between 3.1 and 3.4...which in its self is a little wierd, but I don't know how the CPU is supposed to work. It could be normal for a stock FX 8120.

The only time the CPU wasn't 100% was that LinX test that didn't really work. The tests that weren't using 8 threads of course weren't puting the total CPU ussuage up to 100%, but the cores that were used were at 100%

Hooo boy...I can't wait to see the forsale threads here on OCN in the coming weeks. I am going to get myself a few cheap AM3+ mother boards.
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I should remind all thread participants that what JF-AMD has stated in the Bulldozer Pre-Launch FAQ applies in the same way here. No benchmarks released before the lift of NDA will be representative of the final product, and there would be several reasons as to why.
In case someone hasn't seen this.
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Well, the latest F5A BIOS for updating the AGESA 1.1.0.0 code on my UD3 gave me a 99% decrease. It stops at "loading operating system". So anything is possible..
F5A to the 990FXA-UD3 seems to be like F9A to the 990XA-UD3. It may be one of those BIOS versions more suited for the FX processor but not at all for previous gen processors, similar to as pointed out in this post.
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This is your answer:
So you think its impossible that someone could get their hands on one that doesn't care about an nda? Or are they not releasing bioses/drivers that will let the cpu go to its full potential.
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But this is after release...appearently in eastern Europe and West Asia it has been released or let out anyway. It is really hard to not believe it when you view it with your own eyes...in a real time feed. I take no glee in it...but I can't deny what I witnessed...of which numbers I will not comment on till the NDA is lifted on in my area of the world.
1) apparently ... enough said.
2) it's not officially released, a condition explicitly stated by AMD.
3) you witnessed a spurious event with your own eyes. The point you are still missing is that what you witnessed with your own eyes may have been faulty, so your accepted anecdotal evidence could also be faulty. Again, given the context stated by AMD, wait the few days for official benchmarks.

As it stands now, the rationalizations you provided are still the expressions of preconceived notions clutching at straws to perpetuate a premature conclusion.

The whole, fundamental point of objectivity and rationality is to accept the stated required conditions. Nothing provided as examples of Bulldozers performance so far qualifies, period. It doesn't matter where they're from, there are too many spurious variables pre-release.

seriously, is it that hard to wait until the pre-stated conditions are satisfied before making judgement?

Every statement on BD prior to such is, again, hyperbolic, rhetorical nonsense. Patience is a virtue, and it also separates the fools from the pack.
 
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Really now?

Once you start overclocking, the power consumption goes up greatly.

Even a 2600K @ 5 GHz will draw somewhere around 250W by itself.
One of the moderators on Anandtech personally tested this in a very comprehensive thread. Total system power draw during LinX at 5 GHz was around 350W. If you take into account the fact that the GPU is not stressed during LinX and that the other components would draw about 100W max, you get a CPU draw of around 250W.

I would not be at all surprised if Bulldozer drew 250+ W at 5 GHz, especially considering AMD's 32nm process tech is not as mature as Intel's.

[IMG]http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj163/idontcare_photo_bucket/Intel%20Core%20i7-2600K/i7-2600KPower-ConsumptionwithH100NT-H1.png[IMG]

Source: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2195927
Interesting graph. If you extrapolate that graph upwards and continue on its exponential fit, it looks like at 5.5GHz a 2600k would consume around 500W or more. I'm just eyeballing it, but I can't image it using that much. Do we have any legit power consumption benchmarks with that much OC?
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hmmmmm....... im gonna sit back and wait a few days before i decide if its good or bad, either way....if its faster than my 1090T @ 4.1ghz and is not expensive...... ill grab one.... kinda pointless not to since i ditched my intel **** and bought a whole am3+ ready platform awaiting bulldozer....
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Low res gaming scores: BD can barely break 100FPS on RE5 with a Matrix 580.





Are those games Intel biased too? This may be be a better representation of single threaded performance than sPi for BD.
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