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^JF-AMD didnt really answer anything in that thread, all he basically asked and answered was:

Q. Will BD be able to do this....
A: Dont bother asking because I dont know

Q. Will BD be this expensive....
A. Dont bother asking because im not going to answer.

Q. Will BD be released at....
A. Refer to previous answer.

Glad im not AMD fan otherwise i would be well irritated, The questions everyone is blatantly asking were just avoided totally.

Oh and also at the request for pre sale benchmarks by answering "This will only stall sales", to me thats just another way of saying "The chips are pretty crap, but we obviously dont want people to know that until they've bought the chips and it will be too late for refund".
Edited by $ilent - 10/9/11 at 6:31pm
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I logically don't see how AMD would bother releasing this CPU bundled with a liquid cooling kit (which has been confirmed, and several screenshots of the kit have shown up on the net), if IPS (instructions per second, not clock) would be no better than the K10 architecture. I'm not denying any of the results here; just saying.

BIOS updates can improve performance, it's not unheard of.
to me this WCing bundle points more towards AMD knowing that OCing will be needed to be competitive?
and that doesnt make me happy at all,but since they will all be less than $250 i cant complain
i wonder how much the WCing bundled BD will be....maybe $300
    
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That whole rant was a walking Facepalm
Nice rebuttal. Seriously. Well argued. Very rational points, dissection and explanation.
 
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kinda pointless not to since i ditched my intel **** and bought a whole am3+ ready platform awaiting bulldozer....
Hahaha I did the same thing: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1896924

I still have the $ in my paypal from selling my Intel parts awaiting FX release.
    
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Every statement on BD prior to such is, again, hyperbolic, rhetorical nonsense. Patience is a virtue, and it also separates the fools from the pack.
And when your version of patience gets you nothing but the same answers three months later than everyone else, I assume you'll acknowledge yourself as the fool the pack left behind?
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Originally Posted by Don Karnage View Post
That whole rant was a walking Facepalm





Lab review and the one in this thread was done with retail chips so how do you expect performance to get better with the same exact chips?
Very thorough response.
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Nice rebuttal. Seriously. Well argued. Very rational points, dissection and explanation.
IKR?
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Originally Posted by $ilent View Post
^JF-AMD didnt really answer anything in that thread, all he basically asked and answered was:

Q. Will BD be able to do this....
A: Dont bother asking because I dont know

Q. Will BD be this expensive....
A. Dont bother asking because im not going to answer.

Q. Will BD be released at....
A. Refer to previous answer.

Glad im not AMD fan otherwise i would be well irritated, The questions everyone is blatantly asking were just avoided totally.

Oh and also at the request for pre sale benchmarks by answering "This will only stall sales", to me thats just another way of saying "The chips are pretty crap, but we obviously dont want people to know that until they've bought the chips and it will be too late for refund".
It's called an NDA,in other words it means you have to shut up and not say anything until a certain date.
People will go looking for reviews then make a informed decision,it's not like there won't be any legit reviews when it releases.
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Low res gaming scores: BD can barely break 100FPS on RE5 with a Matrix 580.





Are those games Intel biased too? This may be be a better representation of single threaded performance than sPi for BD.
I'd call those excel sheets moot,it even said in the translation that some of them were mixed up.


You Intel guys are having a field day with this thread,bashing what anyone else has to say and insisting that these "leaks" are factual. Just wait until more reviews on the 12th,if it sucks keep cheering with your blue team comrades,if not take the crap flinging to the PM's.
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Oh and also at the request for pre sale benchmarks by answering "This will only stall sales", to me thats just another way of saying "The chips are pretty crap, but we obviously dont want people to know that until they've bought the chips and it will be too late for refund".
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Nice rebuttal. Seriously. Well argued. Very rational points, dissection and explanation.
I have nothing to refute nor do i care to waste time typing up a response that you're not going to listen to anyway. There's mounds of data staring everyone in the face that BD is a failure yet they turn a blind eye to it. You want to wait till TPU and Anand come out with the reviews? Be my guest. Going to be the same data that's already out there.
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It's called an NDA,in other words it means you have to shut up and not say anything until a certain date.
People will go looking for reviews then make a informed decision,it's not like there won't be any legit reviews when it releases.
So why not just create a thread called "Dont bother asking about BD due to the NDA" instead of making a thread full of unanswered questions...its just pointless reading.

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And when your version of patience gets you nothing but the same answers three months later than everyone else, I assume you'll acknowledge yourself as the fool the pack left behind?

Edited by $ilent - 10/9/11 at 6:39pm
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And when your version of patience gets you nothing but the same answers three months later than everyone else, I assume you'll acknowledge yourself as the fool the pack left behind?
No, my patience will still be logically and rationally justified for adhering to the previously stated conditions required for legitimated benchmarking results. How would it be any different from what I've already stated, that I will accept and support any conclusion that is legitimate and official. Everything prior to such is necessarily not such.

And lets not forget we are talking 3 days not 3 months.

"My version of patience"? What, the one that doesn't jump to conclusions that absolutely contradict the explicit required conditions stated by AMD, the product manufacturer in question, whose product we are debating pre-release?

IF the results shown now are correct, then it will be unfortunate, but also, technically, a coincidence. If the results are different, then what?

Patience is still the virtue, and logic dictates that we wait for the official, substantiated benchmarks. That's a zero-sum policy, and objectively you must know this.
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