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And when your version of patience gets you nothing but the same answers three months later than everyone else, I assume you'll acknowledge yourself as the fool the pack left behind?
Truely golden.


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Originally Posted by willibj View Post
And lets not forget we are talking 3 days not 3 months.



IF the results shown now are correct, then it will be unfortunate, but also, technically, a coincidence.
Anyone interested acknowledged the leaked benchmarks of 3 months ago as a very good possibility of being true, as even then a lot of them were from people that were credible in the past. Also the fact that leaks happen like that. It's inevitable, it is expected, it happened.

And no, not a coincidence. That is actually the opposite. It would have been fact, the entire time. Your logic probably can't be swayed but there was no coincidence my friend.
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So why not just create a thread called "Dont bother asking about BD due to the NDA" instead of making a thread full of unanswered questions...its just pointless reading.
Did you even bother reading his "pointless" thread?
A lot of it was just answering questions that people kept filling his inbox over.
@Dmac,i noticed your personal attack b4 it was deleted,keep it up dude
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Did you even bother reading his "pointless" thread?
The Bulldozer blog thread?
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Is it only me or this whole thread is totally pointless? Rumors are rumors, period
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The Bulldozer blog thread?
No his other sticky'd thread answering questions that people couldn't seem to read so kept bothering him about.
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Is it only me or this whole thread is totally pointless? Rumors are rumors, period
Apparently the Intel fans seem to take these "leaks" as a fact as usual.
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Yes I read it, in fact when you open up that thread the frist 4 or 5 questions just talk about not answering questions due to "fear of sales stalling"aka not letting people find out the product is a load of crap.



BD pre launch FAQ - http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/11...aunch-faq.html
Exactly,it was repeat questions he was sick of answering,he can only say what he is allowed to say.
Please fill me in how it is " a load of crap".
Just because they don't spill the beans like Intel doesn't mean it's a "load of crap".
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Did you even bother reading his "pointless" thread?
A lot of it was just answering questions that people kept filling his inbox over.
@Dmac,i noticed your personal attack b4 it was deleted,keep it up dude
Yes I read it, in fact when you open up that thread the frist 4 or 5 questions just talk about not answering questions due to "fear of sales stalling"aka not letting people find out that the products due to be sold are a load of crap.

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The Bulldozer blog thread?
BD pre launch FAQ (that aren't answered) - http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/11...aunch-faq.html
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Yes I read it, in fact when you open up that thread the frist 4 or 5 questions just talk about not answering questions due to "fear of sales stalling"aka not letting people find out that the products due to be sold are a load of crap.
What did amd think would happen when benchmarks got released? Sales wouldn't stall?
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And lets not forget we are talking 3 days not 3 months.
I posted my best guess to BD performance, based on what was known at the time, almost 3 months ago.

It wasn't much off the results that have been shown so far, including todays demonstration. I was maybe slightly opitmistic (I said the fastest Bulldozer FX would match the 2600k in heavily threaded tasks and lose significantly in single threaded ones; I'd find the half dozen posts, but most of them are from now deleted threads).

So yeah, three months.

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What, the one that doesn't jump to conclusions that absolutely contradict the explicit required conditions stated by AMD, the product manufacturer in question, whose product we are debating pre-release?
No, the one that apparently makes you think AMD controls space-time to the extent that it can go back and change the properties of hardware that was built weeks or months ago.

What AMD does or says is utterly irrelevant. These chips exist, they cannot be unmade, Bulldozer cannot be undone, the cat is out of the bag.

There is no magical fix that is going to dramatically change the performance figures we have see from a half-dozen different sources, which while may not all be perfect, are all painting a similar picture.

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IF the results shown now are correct, then it will be unfortunate, but also, technically, a coincidence.
A coincidence? Hardly.

An FX-8120P performing like an FX-8120P is not a coincidence. In fact, it may even be intentional.

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If the results are different, then what?
If overall consensus of results is markedly different then I'll have to start believing in magic, or evil conspiracy theories.
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these types of threads are what make people leave OCN, thinking it's just like Tom's Hardware. .. then again, maybe it is.
 
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Please fill me in how it is " a load of crap".
Just because they don't spill the beans like Intel doesn't mean it's a "load of crap".
Well you watched the video...this thing performs worse in benchies than AMDs current best offering. So you would literally have to be mentally retarded to sell your hardware and buy these new 8 core chips. People have been aking such a big song and dance over these new BD chips, and I am one of those people who have been saying for months that BD will not be as good as people think, and it seems I am correct.

Call me a Intel fanboy all you want, but when im presented with two different processors at very very similar prices and one is miles better than the other, im just making the smart choice when I go with Intel.

If by some divine miracle AMD decide to spend some money on research and not be so tight fisted in the next decade or so, and thier new offerings are better than Intels sure ill buy the AMD chips.

But until then, ill stick with the obvious better choice.

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What did amd think would happen when benchmarks got released? Sales wouldn't stall?
Well people obviously arent gonna get excited when they see the garbage benchmark results. Still...even if the new AMD chips turned out to be no better than the old athlon X2 series, people would still buy them if they were told the price is right.

Honestly, some people need to wake up and smell the crap being pushed in thier face! As of this moment now in UK you can get a 2500k for £167, and a 1100T for £150. You would be mental if you were to "go cheap and save a few quid" by buying the 1100T, when the intel chip is so so much better in every aspect.
Edited by $ilent - 10/9/11 at 6:59pm
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