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Hi,

I currently have a Samsung SyncMaster P2450H 24" 60Hz LCD monitor and been very happy with it, but Im now interested in possibly upgrading to a BenQ XL2410T 24" 120Hz LED monitor.

However, checking the specs I notice both have a fast refresh rate of 2ms, so Im wondering if the increased refresh rate will really have much of an appreciable difference? To be honest Im a bit confused about the relationship between refresh rate and response time since Id have thought they would be equivalent quantities!

My current Samsung is less than a year old and after selling it the upgrade will probably cost me about $150 so Im questioning if its actually worth it for 2D only. I do play a lot of FPS games though (BC2) and the gfx card Im planning to get is the GeForce GTX 570.

Thanks for any advice!
Edited by BENBOBBY - 10/9/11 at 4:22pm
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I think it would yield a small difference in quality, but not enough that you would really notice. I think you would get more benefit putting the money into upgraded hardware.

I'm guessing you would need 120fps in a game to see a difference anyway so unless its an older game that's probably not going to happen.
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You indeed need hardware capable of producing around 120 fps to see a benefit. If your hardware caps out around 60fps then you really don't gain anything. The 570GTX should be enough barely but it depends on the games you play.

As for how great the benefits for you will be depends on your sensitivity. I refuse to play quake on 60hz now and really noticed the smoothness of 120hz in windows the first minute. Back when I swapped out my 85hz CRT for my first 60hz LCD ages ago the step down was also pretty harsh hz-wise.
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Like already said, you'll only benefit from 61+ fps. If you never go past 60-70ish fps in-game, there's simply no point.
    
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I have a 60Hz 1920x1200 screen and will be using 3x 580's in my upcoming build (unless the GTX6xx comes out sooner than expected). Yes, i do not need or care about 120Hz lol. And neither should you. Just my 2cents.
 
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Dont' give a squat about response times. If a manufacturer even bothers to measure it, it's in gray to gray, which completely nullifies the actual usage of that number. True black to white or vise versa transitions are probably 20-30ms on the average TN.


120hz is worth it if you play a lot of FPS games. But that 570. Don't really know how you'd deal with that one
Edited by De-Zant - 10/10/11 at 10:06am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mhill2029 View Post
I have a 60Hz 1920x1200 screen and will be using 3x 580's in my upcoming build (unless the GTX6xx comes out sooner than expected). Yes, i do not need or care about 120Hz lol. And neither should you. Just my 2cents.
So, you're going to use 580 tri-sli on a 60hz 1920x1200 for what exactly? The point of such a powerful setup is: 1)multi-monitor 2)high-res 3)120hz.

You have neither.
    
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So, you're going to use 580 tri-sli on a 60hz 1920x1200 for what exactly? The point of such a powerful setup is: 1)multi-monitor 2)high-res 3)120hz.

You have neither.
Yes i am. Please don't follow the crowd saying such nonsense is needed to justify computer hardware. It's simply isn't...
 
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Why should he not care about 120hz, mhill2029? Just because you have no use for it? Please try to base your suggestions on what the OP would benefit the most from, not what you would prefer.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mhill2029 View Post
Yes i am. Please don't follow the crowd saying such nonsense is needed to justify computer hardware. It's simply isn't...
I don't follow the crowd. The crowd told me to buy a reference 580 because my resolution is not high enough for 3 GBs. I know it is. I'm also buying a 2nd card just to take advantage of 120hz, while most people tell me not to bother.

However... You simply won't take advantage of tri-sli. Unless you simply want to reduce micro-stuttering to a minimum and have the money to spend, i simply cannot logically reason as to why you're doing that. I was actually hoping you would respond in a more constructive manner, for i am very curious about your reason for tri-sli. If you could do me the favor...

edit: And +1 for De-Zant's post.
    
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