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post #1 of 8
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Does anyone know of a temp monitor program that works with a socket 478 P4 and the acceptable temp ranges for said CPU?

I'm rebuilding a rig for my buddy, its an old Vaio with a 3.2Ghz P4 and 512MB ram, the CPU fan goes like crazy and makes a ton of noise, just want to make sure its running in spec.

On a side note, its been installing windows XP security patches for about 5 hours. I forgot how slow PC's used to be
post #2 of 8
IF hwmonitor or core temp doesn't work chances are it doesn't have a sensor.

If it doesn't have a sensor you will need a probe, is the heatsink clean?

Yea its weird how they were once new and fast now they are dull and slow

OT: what vauxhall is that in your display picture?
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IF hwmonitor or core temp doesn't work chances are it doesn't have a sensor.

If it doesn't have a sensor you will need a probe, is the heatsink clean?

Yea its weird how they were once new and fast now they are dull and slow

OT: what vauxhall is that in your display picture?
Hmmm, yeah neither of those work, I tried. I guess it probably doesn't have a sensor I didn't even think of that. I cleaned the HSF out and put some AS5 because the old stuff was so hard it was like a rock.

Avatar pic is my old LQ9 based 408ci single turbo 1998 Firebird formula.
post #4 of 8
Wouldn't be surprised if it didn't, I know my old amd something or other 7year old rig has no sensors other than HDD,

Those old things can go to high temps without to much fuss, just lower the voltage a little

Or right got the same clocks as a vauxhall, nice tho
post #5 of 8
Core Temp and Real Temp won't work on Pentium 4s so far as I know. Everest/AIDA 64 likely will as long as the board supports it. HWMonitor likely will as well. Speed Fan might, but I personally find it too inconsistent.

Don't be surprised if it runs a bit warm. They were notorious for it.
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On a side note, its been installing windows XP security patches for about 5 hours. I forgot how slow PC's used to be
I was actually setting up a Windows XP install last night on a Pentium 4 2.8GHz (albeit with 2GB RAM). It's a fresh install, but wow does that thing boot rather fast (even after the service packs and updates were applied). I seemingly turned around after a reboot, and it was at the desktop ready to go. I didn't find it slow at all for general use either.
post #6 of 8
Aye, my old P4 rig was also quite snappy and booted fast. 2GB RAM greatly helps such rigs.
Anyway, it's kind of weird that you can't see the temps. HWMonitor worked perfectly fine on every Netburst CPU I've ever tinkered with. Try everest, aida, speedfan... What else... Hmm, can't remember any other software that would work on P4s.
Anyway, there are three 3.2GHz PGA478 CPUs: Northwood, Prescott and Gallatin. According to ark.intel.com, the max Tcase temps are, respectively, 70C, 67.7C and 64C.
What cooler are you using? If it's the stock intel HSF, does it have any copper parts, or is it just a lump of aluminum? My 3.4 Northwood went over 70C during the hottest summer days under heavy load (~30-33C ambient; I was using the stock intel lump of aluminum in a caseless setup), so you could use this as a reference if your situation is similar.
Naturally, I replaced that crappy cooler. One of the best options for old P4s is a Scythe Katana 3. After getting it, my temp under IBT load peaked at 48C, so I'd say it's pretty darn awesome. Quite a number of us, P4 enthusiasts, at the P4 owners thread own this cooler.
On a side note, Scythe Mugen 2 also supports PGA478, so you could go for that one too
Edited by Hyoketsu - 10/10/11 at 3:26am
     
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post #7 of 8
Well, HW monitor should show you, also try Speedfan, it may not work with changing fan speed but it does always seem to corretly display the temperature. Also check in the bios. If none of the programs work then you may actually need to update your bios.
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Try keeping the temps below 60c. I got a 3.2ghz P4 that died from overheat at 68c
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