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Would it be worth waiting for a few more months to buy a SandyBridge build?

DDR3 prices seem to have hit rock bottom (2x4GB sometimes for $20 AR!) and the i5-2500k can often be had for $150 at MicroCenter

I am thinking of buying:

1. i5-2500k

I wanted to ask if the IGP inside this is enough to play CounterStrike and Quake 3TA?

I don't intend to do a lot of OC.

2. A reliable Z68 MB.

Intend to buy the Z68 not to overclock but with hope that it would be more reliable than a P67 as the MB makers would have sufficient time to learn from their mistakes last time around?

Got the Asrock Z68 Gen3 or Gen4 Extreme on my radar, but have been a die-hard Gigabyte fan (Could not get a decently reviewed Z68 from them, but do recommend if you know one)

I am a bit worried about this Asrock MB as I really want to use the IGP inside the i5, but read a review that said this MB becomes unstable when doing so and only using external GPU makes that go away!

Never used an Asrock before, and their CS does leave a lot to be desired, but seems like a good sub $200 deal.

Of course, a HSF, SLI GPU (thinking of 2x 560 Ti) will come later, but not now if I can do with the IGP.
(As an aside, the upgrade would be done to play BF3, Rage and possibly DOOM4!)

Please suggest if using these parts for a build will allow me the upgrade path I want.

Here are my typical uses :

1. Virtual machines (running either full Windows XP SP4 or Ubuntu under Win7 host)
2. DOOM3/HL2 (I am old :-) ) will be running, occasionally, in the evening, specially during weekends
3. A BIG IDE will always be running - either Visual Studio 2010 or Eclipse/Netbeans
4. Dragon Naturally Speaking will always be running
5. SkyPe will always be running

Detailed usage scenarios:

1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etc
Gaming and machine learning (CPU + RAM bound + VM)


2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?
Max: 2k. Ideal: 1.2k (specially with BF and sales this quarter)


3) Which country do you live in? If the U.S, please tell us the state and city if possible.

USA - Tustin, California - Egg, Frys and Microcenters abound :-D


4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. The word "Everything" is not a valid answer. Please list out all the parts you'll need.
Decided on parts but not bought yet: CPU: i5-2500k
Now (need feedback/recommendation on): MB, RAM, Case, Monitor (> 20"), UPS
Later: GPU, HSF, Cooler (no heavy OC though), SSD
{Why later: Gaming will be sparse and that too maybe HL2 or Doom3. i5 IGP should handle it? No OC for now. Maybe when I get the GPUs}


5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Please be especially specific about the power supply. List make and model.
Static wristwrap, soldering iron (?), powertools (?), cables (PSU, SATA2, USB2)


6) Will you be overclocking?
Very little - only because the i5-2500k makes you want to OC a bit ;-)


7) What is the max resolution of your monitor? What size is it?

I have been happy with my dual 19" CRTs at 1024x768 setup of 7 years, but they are gonna die soon I think (random dimming of tube).
In short, never used LCDs at home, but gonna buy one with a LED backlight when I get one.
Need atleast a dual monitor setup (can the Z68 IGP support dual monitors?)


8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?
NOW! (Whenever a part comes on sale during this quarter)


9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? USB 3.0? SATA 6Gb/s? eSATA? Onboard video? etc.
nVidia Fan: appreciate SLI
USB 3
If the MB has RAID controller than can do RAID0 (OS only) reliably (no toy RAID), that would be a big plus. Otherwise, planned on SSD later


10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license? If so, what OS? Is it 32bit or 64bit?
Win7 64bit, Ubuntu, SuSE

Edited by KamalS - 10/11/11 at 10:51am
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Asus or Asrock aren't a bad choice for Z68. I have a gigabyte board but I hate it, if I built someone a machine now, I'd go Asus.

I'll bet you 10 bucks you won't notice a (read: real world) difference between standard DDR3 1333mhz and 1500 or 1600mhz.

You'll get more juice out of OC'ing the hell out of your 2500k (which, by the way, is so easy to do, you'll get 4.5ghz in 2 minutes in the BIOS).

I'm going to assume Windows XP SP4 is a typo as there ain't such thing!

For the record, you'll get by with the IGP on normal desktop usage, but it sucks ass and I would never use it!
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Asus or Asrock aren't a bad choice for Z68. I have a gigabyte board but I hate it, if I built someone a machine now, I'd go Asus.
I noticed the GB MB in your sig - why would you go with an Asus? (I have been a die-hard Gigabyte fan myself)

Also, which Asus MB would you prefer?

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I'm going to assume Windows XP SP4 is a typo as there ain't such thing!

For the record, you'll get by with the IGP on normal desktop usage, but it sucks ass and I would never use it!
Messed up with Win2k SP4 - My bad :-(

Noticed you have 2*GTX 560Ti SOC in SLI - I am thinking of doing that exactly myself, but read recommendations in forums to upgrade to a beefier single GPU instead

I thought parallelism helped in gaming
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I noticed the GB MB in your sig - why would you go with an Asus? (I have been a die-hard Gigabyte fan myself)

Also, which Asus MB would you prefer?



Messed up with Win2k SP4 - My bad :-(

Noticed you have 2*GTX 560Ti SOC in SLI - I am thinking of doing that exactly myself, but read recommendations in forums to upgrade to a beefier single GPU instead

I thought parallelism helped in gaming
The gigabyte board has had a few quirks.

Reboot loops and the like.... All fixed now but not worth the hassle. Can't recommend an Asus board, haven't bothered to do the research, but will do when the time comes to use one.

There's people for and against SLI... mainly because of micro stuttering. A single card solution will most likely be better indeed, but I quite like my SLI set up and would recommend it if it were a cheaper option.
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As far as SLI goes I just wanted to throw in my opinion. I moved from a single GPU to SLI GTX 460's and haven't had any issues what so ever. I'm getting great FPS in both BC2 and BF3. After installing the drivers and enabling SLI everything was taken care of.
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As far as SLI goes I just wanted to throw in my opinion. I moved from a single GPU to SLI GTX 460's and haven't had any issues what so ever. I'm getting great FPS in both BC2 and BF3. After installing the drivers and enabling SLI everything was taken care of.
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There's people for and against SLI... mainly because of micro stuttering. A single card solution will most likely be better indeed, but I quite like my SLI set up and would recommend it if it were a cheaper option.
Excellent decision making skills on both your part!

I want to buy a MB with SLI because it gives me the option.

Of course that MB will be able to accept a single beefier GPU as well.

Gaming is just a past-time and I don't loose sleep over it - micro stuttering would be least of my problems, but shelling out $500+ on a single GPU would.

Hence, buying MB with SLI seems to be a no-brainer unless I am missing something?
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If you don't mind, what do you think this is like:

1. i5-2500K + P8Z68-V PRO bundle at MC for $350
2. 8GB 1600MHz DUAL CORSAIR VENGEANCE #CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9, UPC:843591010801 for $40 AR

A bit more pricier, but "higher quality" perhaps?

What I am most worried about is that the heatsinks on the RAM look very tall. Am I going to run into issues with a Hyper 212+ on this board?
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V Pro board is good choice

instead of vengeance RAM get GSkill Ripjaw Xs
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Yep get Ripjaws if they are cheaper. and the V-Pro is a good board, Gigabyte/MSI/EVGA just aint up to Asus/Asrock's standards for 1155.
    
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My ASROCK z68 extreme 4 is the best motherboard that i have used to date...

Just my opinion, also i got some brand new ripjaws a couple of weeks ago for less than $40
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