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So at the moment I am debating on what to purchase next for my computer and I am thinking my biggest bottleneck may be my video cards.

Basically my Sig rig is my setup but the reason I think my video cards might be the bottleneck is because they are the 460 SE version. I have heard a lot of people say things about the 460 GTX SE's calling them "455's" because they are not quick up to par to a normal 460 GTX.

So would it be most benificial for my system to purchase new video cards (thinking 2x 560 TI's or 1 570 GTX) or does anyone notice anything with my system that might be a bit goofy.

Thanks in advance for the help!
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Id say just go with a 570, And yes the SE's aren't really that great. Really depends on what games your playing.
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Well I was thinking about getting a 570 soon and then another maybe early next year, or just 2 560 TI's sooner but not sure.

I play games like Shogun 2, Dead Island. I will be playing BF3 and SW:TOR when they come out if these games are indication of what I should be looking for.
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it really depends on what your budget is. 570 now then another 570 later is great if you can afford it. 560 ti's in sli scale very well from what i hear. or you can always just hold out till the 600 series and get a set of 660s when they are release?
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I was thinking about waiting for the 600 series and from what I have read (and not a ton) is that they are basically just Fermi refreshes? I honestly don't know if its worth it for a Fermi refresh or is it? Video cards isn't really my forte ><
post #6 of 23
Terrible idea. The SE's in SLi are faster than a single 570. Overclocked they are faster than a single 580.

Assuming you overclock both the 460 SE's and 560 Ti's in SLi, that would be about a 10-15% performance difference, hardly worth the cost of buying two 560 Tis.

Anyone recommending the 570 is illiterate about the subject.

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Id say just go with a 570, And yes the SE's aren't really that great. Really depends on what games your playing.
You really have no idea what you're talking about. The 460 SE's are ~7% slower than the regular 460s in a single GPU configuration and almost equal in SLi once both are overclocked.

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it really depends on what your budget is. 570 now then another 570 later is great if you can afford it. 560 ti's in sli scale very well from what i hear. or you can always just hold out till the 600 series and get a set of 660s when they are release?
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So at the moment I am debating on what to purchase next for my computer and I am thinking my biggest bottleneck may be my video cards.

Basically my Sig rig is my setup but the reason I think my video cards might be the bottleneck is because they are the 460 SE version. I have heard a lot of people say things about the 460 GTX SE's calling them "455's" because they are not quick up to par to a normal 460 GTX.

So would it be most benificial for my system to purchase new video cards (thinking 2x 560 TI's or 1 570 GTX) or does anyone notice anything with my system that might be a bit goofy.

Thanks in advance for the help!

Yep, by looking at your system, your GPUs are the only thing you can realistically improve right now. Getting a single GPU is always a better idea because you don't have to deal with microstuttering (Tom's did an article on that and cards slower than the GTX570 in SLI show microstutter, the same thing with anything slower than a Radeon HD6950), and all games will run at full speed of what you have without having to bother whether Nvidia already has SLI support for a certain game or not.

Having said that, I don't know if you'll see much of a performance improvement by going to a single GTX570 from two GTX460 SEs. You'll surely benefit from what I said above though, and it's a good upgrade path to SLI at a later time too.


Edit: I would personally wait for Nvidia's next cards, even if they are just refreshes, they will surely have more than 1280 MB of VRAM. A GTX570 has raw power, but not enough VRAM.
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post #8 of 23
My single 570 runs BF3 on highest settings possible with average of 43fps and max of 97. With your cpu overclock, you should be able to get upwards of 50 FPS on it no problem.

Two 570s in SLI would destroy pretty much any game crabby
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any 460 sli combo is a great setup....

but that said i would still go for a single 570 if you had the money...

because you could have 3 or 4 of them later on

but with either choice you will end up with a go combo...

so if you have the $$$$ go for the 570...

if you are short on the $$$$ go for the second 460..

simple
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Yep, by looking at your system, your GPUs are the only thing you can realistically improve right now. Getting a single GPU is always a better idea because you don't have to deal with microstuttering (Tom's did an article on that and cards slower than the GTX570 in SLI show microstutter, the same thing with anything slower than a Radeon HD6950), and all games will run at full speed of what you have without having to bother whether Nvidia already has SLI support for a certain game or not.

Having said that, I don't know if you'll see much of a performance improvement by going to a single GTX570 from two GTX460 SEs. You'll surely benefit from what I said above though, and it's a good upgrade path to SLI at a later time too.
Anyone mentioning microstutter just doesn't know what they're talking about, especially when they don't have a dual-GPU configuration themselves. nvidia has excellent driver support; SLi profiles will not be an issue.

You really don't know what you're talking about. Going from 460 SEs to a single 570 would be a performance decrease.

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any 460 sli combo is a great setup....

but that said i would still go for a single 570 if you had the money...

because you could have 3 or 4 of them later on

but with either choice you will end up with a go combo...

so if you have the $$$$ go for the 570...

if you are short on the $$$$ go for the second 460..

simple
He already has the 460s. Going to a single 570 is a performance decrease and incredibly stupid.



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