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Hmmmm, maybe I will hang out for awhile for the 600 series. I mean for what I play right now, basically I need Shogun 2 on Medium/High, Dead Island on straight up medium because I get awful FPS, Warcraft all Ultra but that game is so old so meh. Hmm, 600 series are do sometime next year ya?
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Hmmmm, maybe I will hang out for awhile for the 600 series. I mean for what I play right now, basically I need Shogun 2 on Medium/High, Dead Island on straight up medium because I get awful FPS, Warcraft all Ultra but that game is so old so meh. Hmm, 600 series are do sometime next year ya?
You shouldn't be having a problem with any of these games with your setup.

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I was thinking about waiting for the 600 series and from what I have read (and not a ton) is that they are basically just Fermi refreshes? I honestly don't know if its worth it for a Fermi refresh or is it? Video cards isn't really my forte ><
The 600 series is NOT a Fermi refresh. The 500 series is a Fermi refresh. They're not dumb enough to move to a smaller die and keep the same architecture.
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Hmmmm, maybe I will hang out for awhile for the 600 series. I mean for what I play right now, basically I need Shogun 2 on Medium/High, Dead Island on straight up medium because I get awful FPS, Warcraft all Ultra but that game is so old so meh. Hmm, 600 series are do sometime next year ya?
huh.... Dead Island bad FPS???

i can run that with no issues on a 450 maxed out at 900p
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The 600 series is NOT a Fermi refresh. The 500 series is a Fermi refresh. They're not dumb enough to move to a smaller die and keep the same architecture.
Ya like I said video cards are not my strong point, just from what I thought I read that's what it is, but I guess I am incorrect

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huh.... Dead Island bad FPS???

i can run that with no issues on a 450 maxed out at 900p
Ya for some reason this game does not like my computer at all. I get sub par FPS at anything other than medium settings and I get a god awful screen tearing whenever I move around (and yes VSync is enabled).

I mean my computer doesn't run bad or anything I am just looking to see the best route to improve upon my current setup. Gathering from responses I figure I will probably wait for the 600 Series and seeing how much they cost, probably buy 1 at the time and then a second later.
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Anyone mentioning microstutter just doesn't know what they're talking about, especially when they don't have a dual-GPU configuration themselves. nvidia has excellent driver support; SLi profiles will not be an issue.

You really don't know what you're talking about. Going from 460 SEs to a single 570 would be a performance decrease.


Oh, and do you know what you are talking about ?

Micro-Stuttering And GPU Scaling In CrossFire And SLI


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At first glance, it seems that the Nvidia cards don't scale as well in SLI. However, micro-stuttering is less pronounced as well compared to the CrossFire-based rig. It's not gone, though; even with SLI, micro-stuttering is observable.

(...)

It is noticeable that a single GeForce GTX 560 (no Ti suffix) is subject to more pronounced frame rate variations, even while the frame rate itself is almost identical.

Bear in mind the GTX 560 (non Ti) they mention above is essentially a faster clocked GTX460, so the results for the GTX460 SE would be even worse.


And from the conclusions:

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SLI

Nvidia's approach is much more consistent, though its own SLI technology doesn't side-step micro-stuttering entirely. At least the company's high-end cards work together the way we'd expect. However, sporadic micro-stuttering brings us back to reality time and again. Cards like the GeForce GTX 550 Ti seem to be wasted on a SLI setup for this reason alone, achieving decent frame rates in the charts and nasty micro-stuttering in the real world.
And the GTX550 Ti they mention here is not that much slower than a GTX460 SE.
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Ya like I said video cards are not my strong point, just from what I thought I read that's what it is, but I guess I am incorrect



Ya for some reason this game does not like my computer at all. I get sub par FPS at anything other than medium settings and I get a god awful screen tearing whenever I move around (and yes VSync is enabled).

I mean my computer doesn't run bad or anything I am just looking to see the best route to improve upon my current setup. Gathering from responses I figure I will probably wait for the 600 Series and seeing how much they cost, probably buy 1 at the time and then a second later.
I would assume your two GTX 460s (even SE) would perform quite a bit better than my GTX 470 (as I can max out Dead Island with no problems). What drivers are you using?
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Oh, and do you know what you are talking about ?

Micro-Stuttering And GPU Scaling In CrossFire And SLI





Bear in mind the GTX 560 (non Ti) they mention above is essentially a faster clocked GTX460, so the results for the GTX460 SE would be even worse.


And from the conclusions:



And the GTX550 Ti they mention here is not that much slower than a GTX460 SE.
The article says that the stuttering for nvidia setups, what we're talking about here, is sporadic and only mentions the 550 Ti specifically (not what we're talking about).

No, that's just wrong. The 460 SEs would scale better than the 560 Ti. For the same family, the fewer the cores the higher the scaling. 460s scale better than 560 Tis and 460 SE's scale better than regular 460s.

Looking closer at that review, with the settings and games they used it's very possible they just hit the VRAM wall. They ran Metro2033 on enthusiast with 4X AA which will use more than 1GB VRAM. Then again what can we expect from Tom's.

I have 460s, they don't stutter.
    
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I would assume your two GTX 460s (even SE) would perform quite a bit better than my GTX 470 (as I can max out Dead Island with no problems). What drivers are you using?
I'm using the 285.38 beta drivers, I did have the same issue with my FPS with the 280.26 drivers as well.
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