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Hi, I am new to overclocking but I have read many overclocking articles on the internet and seen videos on YouTube. Right now, I have a Cool Master Hyper 212+ with one fan on my i7 950. Idle temps are 40-45 C. Load temps are about 70 C. I don't think I can overclock much with this cooler? I'm thinking about getting a Corsair H100 to overclock the CPU to above 4Ghz. Are there any other coolers that are better for the same price?

Thanks in advance.
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post #2 of 63
Try reapplying the thermal paste and HSF, bit high for load on stock?
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Noctua NH-D14, Silver Arrow are the two top air coolers and can usually get you to around 4.0GHz ,but it also depends on your chip. For example which stepping do you have D0 or C0?
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Unless your stock voltage is going ape**** and you have a high ambient temperature, I would advice you to reseat the cooler.
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Originally Posted by Socks keep you warm;15243938 
Try reapplying the thermal paste and HSF, bit high for load on stock?

What should the temperatures be for my CPU with this cooler? I'm using the thermal paste that came with the 212+.
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Originally Posted by bom;15243941 
Noctua NH-D14, Silver Arrow are the two top air coolers and can usually get you to around 4.0GHz ,but it also depends on your chip. For example which stepping do you have D0 or C0?

I hear water cooling is better than air cooling?
Not sure what D0 or C0 means. I did a quick search about found out that all 950's are D0.
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Originally Posted by Devilmaypoop;15243951 
Unless your stock voltage is going ape**** and you have a high ambient temperature, I would advice you to reseat the cooler.

I haven't overclock my processor at all. I did however notice in RealTemp that my CPU has a multiplier of 24. I thought it was suppost to be 23. This makes the processor 3.2Ghz and perhaps that's what's making the high temperatures? I will reseat the cooler as well.
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post #6 of 63
you can bring your load temps down some by using a better TIM and adding another fan (same). check out the Cooler Master 212+ club.
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Originally Posted by tom351;15244970 
What should the temperatures be for my CPU with this cooler? I'm using the thermal paste that came with the 212+.

not sure about hyper 212+, but i have an h80 on my 950, and idle temp is about 38-42, that's while it's at 3.82ghz. when i get it to 4ghz, idle temp is about 45'c, it's too high for my liking. so i stayed at 3.8ghz.

not all 950s are the same, therefore to run at certain speeds requires different volts, hence different temps. ambient and case airflow also play an important role, and of course your cpu cooler is the most important factor.

as far as i know, the hyper 212+ is a good cooler in it's price range, end of the day, it is still a budget cooler, but in this category, it is perhaps the best that's around.

like others have suggested, i would recommend the nh-d14 and silverarrow as well, personally, my h80 isn't much of an upgrade from my old thermaltake frio.
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Originally Posted by tom351;15244970 
I hear water cooling is better than air cooling?
Not sure what D0 or C0 means. I did a quick search about found out that all 950's are D0.

yup, all 950s are D0. as for watercooling, yes a custom water loop is much better than air solution, but h100 is something inbetween water and air cooling, it offers simplicity that custom loops doesn't have but at the same time performance isn't anywhere near a full on custom loop.

i am not slating corsair, i think they did a decent job for their hydro series, but if you consider them as 'water-cooling' solution, then you're mistaken. as far as i know, the top end air coolers are still unbeatable in terms of performance.
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Originally Posted by tom351;15244970 
I haven't overclock my processor at all. I did however notice in RealTemp that my CPU has a multiplier of 24. I thought it was suppost to be 23. This makes the processor 3.2Ghz and perhaps that's what's making the high temperatures? I will reseat the cooler as well.

the x24 multi is because turbo mode is enabled in bios, it's normal, when your cpu is understress, the multi jumps from x23 to x24. and yes, x24 chucks out a lot more heat as the default bios sets the volts to necessary high values, to lower temps you need to dive into bios and do some manual labour work. if you need help, i can give your a few numbers, but i'm no expert, but should get you started smile.gif
post #8 of 63
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I going to get some Arctic Silver 5. I hear that's one of the best thermal pastes?

Are there any other coolers that are better than the H100 and the same price or cheaper?
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post #9 of 63
Quote:
Originally Posted by tom351;15245127 
I going to get some Arctic Silver 5. I hear that's one of the best thermal pastes?

ac mx3, mx4 are both cheap with no curing time
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Originally Posted by tom351;15245127 
Are there any other coolers that are better than the H100 and the same price or cheaper?

if you really want to go water, consider a rasa kit. if not the nh-d14 and silverarrow are both cheaper and offers the same if not better performance
post #10 of 63
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Quote:
Originally Posted by erik257;15245124 
if you need help, i can give your a few numbers, but i'm no expert, but should get you started smile.gif

What should I change in the bios?
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Originally Posted by erik257;15245170 
ac mx3, mx4 are both cheap with no curing time

if you really want to go water, consider a rasa kit. if not the nh-d14 and silverarrow are both cheaper and offers the same if not better performance

Here in Australia, mx3 and mx4 are twice the price of Silver 5 smile.gif

The XSPC RS 360 seems to perform better than any cooler: http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/corsair_h100_review/1
NH-D14 is also very good but that thing is HUGE in size.
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