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@GOneTomorrow- Ya I figured shooting in RAW would make it it a wash with the type of style I am shooting and the setting in camera, but Last night I was trying to sharpen up and clarify the pictures and I could not tell it was doing anything. Noise level reducion seemed to work to a degree before it made it too soft looking. I think a better lens will make the biggest difference like you and others have said. I am just trying to decide which lens to get since I really do not want to spend 600-1000 on 2 lenses so I need to figure out what style of shoot I most want to focus on. I really like nighttime shooting and sceneic shots, so maybe a good Macro lens? Tokina or Sigma? I know I cant afford to also do a great prime so I need to stick with the Nifty Fifty for now.
Macro lenses are for macro; why would you get them for landscapes?

And comparing brands is a bit useless; you should compare specific lenses instead.

Personally, I'd add a Sigma 10-20mm myself to your gear collection, or sell off the Nifty and add a Sigma 30mm. But once more I still think that this could be a case of user error and inexperience with nighttime photography. And once more, high res shots would help
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Well I think the wide angle would be a good way to then. I may take the nifty back and get the 10-20mm. MAy be user error but I still think This camera just does not have the ability to take the quality of shots I am looking for with the lens it came with. I do know how to tell if something is in focus or if the lens is able to focus on what I want. The fact that the Viewfinder is so small and dimm makes it very difficult since the LCD gets so much noise at the settings needed for night shots and the little light it has to work with. I can see the fuzzyness in the Live view very well no matter the focus.

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Macro lenses are for macro; why would you get them for landscapes?

And comparing brands is a bit useless; you should compare specific lenses instead.

Personally, I'd add a Sigma 10-20mm myself to your gear collection, or sell off the Nifty and add a Sigma 30mm. But once more I still think that this could be a case of user error and inexperience with nighttime photography. And once more, high res shots would help
post #23 of 28
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Well I think the wide angle would be a good way to then. I may take the nifty back and get the 10-20mm. MAy be user error but I still think This camera just does not have the ability to take the quality of shots I am looking for with the lens it came with. I do know how to tell if something is in focus or if the lens is able to focus on what I want. The fact that the Viewfinder is so small and dimm makes it very difficult since the LCD gets so much noise at the settings needed for night shots and the little light it has to work with. I can see the fuzzyness in the Live view very well no matter the focus.
That's a different issue entirely than noise in your photos. My noise in LV is always more than what I'd get in the photo, esp at 10x magnification. The shots that come out however are clean.
post #24 of 28
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Well I will stick with the T2i I guess. A girl in my office has a a 60D and I thought about reuting and getting that one since it gets better reviews when it comes to the viewfinder being a pentaprism unlike the T2i which i did not know it was not one. The 60D also has better focusing ability I read.

@GOneTomorrow- Ya I figured shooting in RAW would make it it a wash with the type of style I am shooting and the setting in camera, but Last night I was trying to sharpen up and clarify the pictures and I could not tell it was doing anything. Noise level reducion seemed to work to a degree before it made it too soft looking. I think a better lens will make the biggest difference like you and others have said. I am just trying to decide which lens to get since I really do not want to spend 600-1000 on 2 lenses so I need to figure out what style of shoot I most want to focus on. I really like nighttime shooting and sceneic shots, so maybe a good Macro lens? Tokina or Sigma? I know I cant afford to also do a great prime so I need to stick with the Nifty Fifty for now.
Couldn't have said better. A macro lens is far from ideal for landscape shooting. It's suited for very close-up shots. So if that's what you're interested in, then a macro lens is ok. However, if you like landscapes, be it day or night, you should consider a better quality standard or ultra wide angle zoom lens.

To name a few:

Standard zoom lenses:
1. Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 - Pricey, but extremely high quality.

2. Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 (VC or non-VC) - Much less expensive, and very good quality.

3. Canon EF 17-40mm f/4 L - One of the cheapest L lenses, and best overall quality on this list.

4. Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 - Also good quality and much less expensive than Canon versions.

UWA zoom lenses:
1. Canon EF-S 10-22 f/3.5-4.5 USM - Easily the best UWA zoom for crop cameras.

2. Sigma 10-20 f/4-5.6 - Probably the most popular UWA for crop, reasonably priced and good quality.

3. Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 - Another popular UWA with the advantage of a constant f/2.8 aperture.

And to give a small list of macro and prime lenses:

Macro lenses
1. Canon EF-S 60mm f/2.8 - Very sharp and high quality lens, though short focal length makes for short working distance (distance to the subject for max magnification).

2. Tamron 90mm f/2.8 - Also a very good lens with a bit longer focal length and more WD.

3. Canon 100mm f/2.8 (the non L) - Probably the best overall on this list. Longer focal length gives plenty of WD.

4. Sigma 105mm f/2.8 or Sigma 150mm f/2.8

Standard prime lenses
1. Canon 50mm f/1.4 USM - Better build quality, bokeh, and faster focusing than the Canon 50 f/1.8.

2. Sigma 30mm f/1.4 - Very popular lens indeed and very high quality. Slightly wider angle for versatility.

3. Sigma 50mm f/1.4 - Better quality in all respects than the Canon version, but at a higher price.


There's a few for consideration, though certainly not all. And about the 60D, the handling and features such as a better VF and AF are definitely true, but IQ wise it won't be enormously better than your T2i. I would put your money to new lenses instead, but considering the 60D instead of your T2i wouldn't be unwise IMO.
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have you tried manual focus and live view?
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Lol, STOP THE LENS DOWN. Focus, f/11, enjoy.

P.S. Use mirror lock-up and the self-timer. The first click of the shutter locks up the mirror, the second will take the exposure and the mirror will return when it's finished. That's why you think nothing is happening.
post #27 of 28
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UWA zoom lenses:
1. Canon EF-S 10-22 f/3.5-4.5 USM - Easily the best UWA zoom for crop cameras.
+1 for the Canon 10-22mm. Easily the BEST purchase I've made for my camera. It's a brilliant lens.

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Lol, STOP THE LENS DOWN. Focus, f/11, enjoy.

P.S. Use mirror lock-up and the self-timer. The first click of the shutter locks up the mirror, the second will take the exposure and the mirror will return when it's finished. That's why you think nothing is happening.
This. It will definitely help with the focusing.
     
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I just got my tripod today so I will be trying some of these soon. I'm going to six flags in jersey this weekend which would be a really cool place to shoot with fright fest and all i just don't feel comfortable bringing my camera. But my parents live on a river so hopfully i can get some cool night shots of the river and sunset and stuff.
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