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Super shady x9000. 570's on left-over 470 PCBs? You've got to be kidding me.

I have only had two MSI products in all my years of using computers. Both were HD 6990's and both died within days of being opened with the same problem, GPU2 would suddenly disappear and then the machine would crash and not boot again with the card installed. Lucky for me I bought it at a brick-and-mortar so I just went on back there and returned it.

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If I don't hear from Joshua (Newegg_Support) by Friday when I get off of work, I'll be having Newegg cross-ship me two new MSi 570s like these... I'll be willing to give it another shot as long as I get two WORKING cards.

Apparently, the reason for the 470 PCB is because of the 570 PCB's VRM issues. So at this point I'm not really sure what I want. I'll give it till Friday evening.
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Wow. That blows man. Terrible business practice, save a few dollars on some cards and you alienate customers for life.

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Originally Posted by metallicamaster3;15291840 
If I don't hear from Joshua (Newegg_Support) by Friday when I get off of work, I'll be having Newegg cross-ship me two new MSi 570s like these... I'll be willing to give it another shot as long as I get two WORKING cards.

Apparently, the reason for the 470 PCB is because of the 570 PCB's VRM issues. So at this point I'm not really sure what I want. I'll give it till Friday evening.

Hmm that's an interesting twist. It should still be well advertised that they're doing it.
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Originally Posted by Jarobata;15291955 
Wow. That blows man. Terrible business practice, save a few dollars on some cards and you alienate customers for life.

Hmm that's an interesting twist. It should still be well advertised that they're doing it.

Unfortunately frown.gif Hopefully they'll make it right - I love Newegg and have always been loyal!
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I might consider a different card now. The Classified or MSI come to mind. Although the SMI has been much cheaper in the past, it was $315 at Amazon for a long time, and even cheaper than that for a little bit as well.
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I just found this thread and have been wanting to ask some questions about this card. I have the same MSI card, and it is really, really loud over about 60% fan. I haven't had any problems with it yet and had it since June, but am really wanting a quiter version of the 570.

Could this be what is causing mine to be so loud? I really don't even know what to look for to see if my card has the 470 or 570 PCB, but I'll take mine out and compare it to your pictures.

Another question is, do all of these models have the 470PCB in them or was it just a certain run of cards that has it. If that's what is making my card so loud I would love to have one with the reference parts on it.
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I got the same issue, bought a gtx 570 from us.ncix.com,

http://us.ncix.com/products/index.php?usaffiliateid=1000031501&sku=57383&promoid=1339

the s/n starts with 602-V222 and apparently those cards that contain v222 in the s/n use gtx 470 pcb/cooler. Cards with GTX580 type of cooler/pcb contain v801 in s/n. So at this point i am not sure what to do - should i open the box and make sure what kind of card i got or maybe i just need to send it back. But i am not very enthusiastic about time waisted and additional shipping costs.

Very frustrating and disappointing experience, gentlemen from MSI! this is misadvertising. I haven't seen any pictures of gtx 570 with gtx 470 pcb neither on msi website nor on resellers websites. You just buy gtx 570 which looks like regular reference gtx 570 on pictures and surprise surprise!
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post #28 of 32
Blah, 470 cooler is trash... PCB is better, but the cooler is pretty awful.

OP unless you plan to go water, or these are way lower in price than "real" reference 570s I'd go with a refund. The improved vrms wouldn't offset the loud blower and reference 470 cooler (imo).
    
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I got the same issue, bought a gtx 570 from us.ncix.com,

http://us.ncix.com/products/index.php?usaffiliateid=1000031501&sku=57383&promoid=1339

the s/n starts with 602-V222 and apparently those cards that contain v222 in the s/n use gtx 470 pcb/cooler. Cards with GTX580 type of cooler/pcb contain v801 in s/n. So at this point i am not sure what to do - should i open the box and make sure what kind of card i got or maybe i just need to send it back. But i am not very enthusiastic about time waisted and additional shipping costs.

Very frustrating and disappointing experience, gentlemen from MSI! this is misadvertising. I haven't seen any pictures of gtx 570 with gtx 470 pcb neither on msi website nor on resellers websites. You just buy gtx 570 which looks like regular reference gtx 570 on pictures and surprise surprise!
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Blah, 470 cooler is trash... PCB is better, but the cooler is pretty awful.

OP unless you plan to go water, or these are way lower in price than "real" reference 570s I'd go with a refund. The improved vrms wouldn't offset the loud blower and reference 470 cooler (imo).

Indeed it was misadvertising, which is the reason I used to justify Newegg giving me an advanced refund on these cards, because when I purchased them, the pictures were that of a reference card on Newegg's product page. Not the case when I actually received them.

After failing to get in contact with the Newegg rep we have here, I had no choice but to call their 1-800 number and explain my situation. They were able to give me my advanced refund, thankfully. I turned around and took my $640 back, came here to the OCN classifieds and picked up two EVGA GTX 570s, the actual reference cards, for $535 Shipped. Much better deal, much better cards. I want to get backplates for them, but I can't justify spending $50 to get what is essentially two sheets of metal.
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here is what these suckers look like next to real 570s, i have found this picture in older thread:

[ATTACH]236417[/ATTACH]

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/1049000-new-gtx570-revision.html

I wrote to MSIAlex yesterday but got no response yet frown.gif
Edited by ekg84 - 10/28/11 at 10:22am
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